Adrien Agreste & The Body Language Of Abuse

steddie where Eddie never lets anyone DM for him but Steve once ad libbed an npc during a campaign for a really stupid long life conversation with the party and Eddie realizes he’s actually a really good story teller and he lets Steve dm a one shot in his world and suddenly steve is obsessed

Omega Pav wants to scent mark his pack every five seconds. He /needs/ them covered in his scent so they know he loves them and that he knows that they love him back. It's just a way for him to comfort himself while also to show his overflowing affection for all of his friends the only way he knows how; by being as physical as he possibly can with them.

Alpha Hobie takes to it with ease. He settles comfortably whenever Pav pulls him close and rubs their hands together, whether it's their wrists or necks, Hobie lets him do what he wants and reciprocates the affection with eagerness. Out of all the spiders, Pav is the closest with Hobie in terms of being able to show affection, Hobie has always been willing to receive it.

Beta Gwen takes a few tries to get her to really be more open to it. She nearly punches Pav square in the face completely on instinct when he gets too close without permission the first time. But, after a few attempts, she finally allows it and, ever since, she'll let him slip his hand into hers or hug her tightly and rub their glands together, scents mixing.

Omega Miles is the most difficult to get to come around. Despite how he may come across, he doesn't really take to physical affection like the rest of them do. After the events of The Spot, his inner Omega practically curls in on itself and hides itself away to protect itself from further harm; physically and emotionally. Miles and Gwen are awkward around each other for the longest time. He and Pav aren't much better because, well, they don't really know each other. But, Pav would like to know him more, if Miles would let him. Hobie seems to be the only one Miles allows himself to get closer. Well, perhaps it's because Hobie forces himself past Miles barriers and drapes himself over his back or hugs him from the side. But, Pav doesn't want to overstep his boundaries so he plays it safe.

He'll gently graze their fingers together or he'll bump shoulders with Miles after a job well done. When they have movie nights, Pav will stay close to Miles and lean his head on his arm and nuzzle against him. Miles slowly starts accepting more and more from Pav until finally, he lets Pav rub the glands on their necks together, intertwining their scents and making their inner omegas coo and rumble with satisfaction.

When Hobie gets wind, he immediately rushes over to Miles as soon as they are each other again and drags Miles into his arms so he can rumble and nose at the scent glands on his neck. Miles squeals and Hobie chuckles and playfully scents him as the Omega swats him away and rubs at his marked throat.

"You guys are fucking /insatiable/," Miles curses and Pav giggles, draping himself over his back but Miles allows it so it's safe to say he isn't actually upset.

"We just loooove you," Pav coos. "Let us love you!"

"Ain't that bloody right," Hobie says and comes up right in front of Miles so both he and Pav are hugging him from either side. "Let us love ya', yeah? Our lil' Brooklyn-baby."

Miles grumbles but doesn't protest and lets them do what they please. He comes home smelling obnoxiously like his two packmates and it takes /days/ for their scents to wash out...not that he was complaining.

The next time Gwen comes over, he walks over hesitantly and bumps their shoulders together. She turns to look at him, confused but hope burns brightly in her eyes and Miles turns away but opens his arms up to her and Gwen perks up.

She /slams/ into him and Miles immediately begins to purr with affection.

"I'm sorry," She sniffles, tears dribbling down her cheeks. "I'm sorry, Miles. Please believe me."

"I do," Miles tells her honestly. "I forgive you, Gwen."

And, for now, that's enough.

Darius: Hunter is stuck in the human realm! What if something happens to him?

Alador: My daughter is there too, but it'll be okay. They're with Luz. Your son will be safe.

Darius: Son? Hunter isn't my son.

Alador: He isn't?

Eberwolf: He isn't??

Raine, Eda and the rest of the Boiling Isles: He isn't???

Hopper accidentally becomes the biggest ally in Hawkins out of hatred for Mike Wheeler. El wants to date Max? Perfect, Mike is terrified of Max. El wants to date Max and Lucas? Even better, more people to keep Mike away. Will comes out to Joyce and Hop? Hopper is immediately studying up on gay culture and flagging so he can find him a Hop ApprovedTM boyfriend. He sees that nice boy Gareth cuff his jeans one time and starts inviting him to family dinner. Mike seems annoyed that Steve is spending more time with Munson? A pamphlet titled “Accepting your Bisexuality” finds its way into Steve’s jacket pocket. Hopper has never seen Mike as furious as the day Steve and Munson arrive at dinner holding hands. It’s a good day. Hopper isn’t sure how Nancy dating the Buckley girl will annoy Mike, but he’s willing to give it a shot.

This is a continuation of this post I made the other day: https://its-rat-time-babey.tumblr.com/post/682475975290880000/so-i-realized-something-about-hunter-you-know-how

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So I was thinking about how Hunter’s grimwalker physiology makes him immune to the boiling waters of the isles and I started thinking about just how different Hunter’s body must be compared to the average witch. So now I have a bunch of headcanons about the differences between Hunter and other witches. Here they are.

Hunter is extremely heavy and physically strong compared to a witch. A generally accepted headcanon I’ve seen is the fact that witches are very light and aren’t very strong physically when compared to a human, the most common reasons I’ve seen for this being:

The bile sack takes up quite a bit of space so other organs like the lungs and heart must be smaller and by extension weaker so the bile sack fits properly.

Witches have been relying on magic for their entire lives and just don’t need to rely on physical strength much.

Luz, who claims to have “weak nerd arms” was able to carry Amity like she weighed next to nothing.

So witches are pretty light and not very athletic compared to humans.

But now think about what grimwalkers are made of:

Selkidomus Scales for the skin. (Thick, fireproof, magic resistant and heavy).

Palistrom Wood used as keratin and probably cartilage as well, meaning fingernails, hair, nose, ears, and parts of the bone. (Wood is pretty darn heavy, especially when compared to actual keratin, cartilage and bones).

Gladorstones for providing power and serving as the heart. (gladorstones are rocks, and decently sized ones at that. You can’t tell me that they’re light).

Stonesleeper lungs serving as lungs. (Probably pretty heavy considering how big stonesleepers are and their ability to petrify themselves and live, but in the long run they’re just lungs. Massive Lungs that can turn into very heavy stone in the right conditions, but organic lungs nonetheless).

Bone of orlet. (Just bones. Nothing to say here).

Point is all the stuff used to create Hunter weighs a ton and since he’s made of that stuff, so is he. Luz can pick up a witch that’s around Hunter’s age and size like a sack of potatoes, but she struggles to lift Hunter an inch off the ground.

Secondly is Hunter’s physical strength. He stronk. Especially when compared to a witch. He doesn’t have any magic, but he’s got plenty of physical strength, and I have some proof of this.

At the end of hollow mind, Hunter runs out of the owl house. He just swings the front door open and runs. But the house was on lockdown and we were already shown that there were like four different latches on the front door alone. So that begs the question; how did Hunter open the door so easily?

The only obvious answer is that he forced the door open hard enough to break the latches. He broke four metal locks simultaneously in one single, fluid motion. He didn’t struggle or even seem to notice that he did it. So Hunter’s clearly got some serious muscle.

There’s also his staff and how he fights.

First of all, his staff is made from metal. This is because it uses artificial magic like Belos’s staff. But a heavy metal staff also plays into how Hunter fights.

Hunter seems to prefer fighting up close and personal and constantly tries to physically hit people with his staff as opposed to casting spells from a distance.

Makes sense when you think about it. Hunter can’t do magic on his own, but is incredibly strong, so physically hitting someone with a staff is easier and more effective than trying to cast magic.

Hitting someone with a heavy metal staff definitely does more damage than hitting someone with a lighter wooden one. Plus Hunter’s artificial staff is heavier on one end (the end with the crystal) than the other, allowing it to act a bit like a hammer or mace and do even more damage when used as a melee weapon, while wooden staffs are perfectly weighted in the centre with no end heavier than the other so spell circles can be created easier with them.

Hunter can’t use spell circles, so there’s no point in having his staff be optimized for making spell circles. And on top of all that, the winglike part of Hunter’s artificial staff can be used as a sort of axe blade, making it even more effective up close.

Having a heavy, unbalanced metal staff also makes it much harder for someone to steal it and use it against Hunter or other members of the emperor’s coven. The witch will be struggling to properly use the thing due to its weight and unbalanced centre of mass, while Hunter and his grimwalker strength can use it just fine.

Moving on from Hunter’s strength, here’s a couple of smaller headcanons:

Hunter’s lungs being stonesleeper lungs means that he can hold his breath for a very long time and has some pretty strong lungs overall. Stonesleepers basically hold their breath for the entire night since they petrify themselves when they sleep and un-petrify themselves in the morning. They need some insane lung capacity so they don’t suffocate. He can’t hold his breath forever, but he can hold his breath for just long enough for it to be unnerving for those around him.

Since Hunter is partially made from palistrom wood, and palismen are made from palismen wood, Hunter can understand and speak to palismen. Even palismen that he has no connection to. For example, Eda can talk to Owlbert and understand him because that’s her palisman, but she can’t understand Flapjack because Flapjack isn’t hers. Hunter can speak to Flapjack and understand him because Flapjack is his palisman, but he can also understand Owlbert just fine as well because he’s (partially) made of palistrom wood.

The combination of magic controling palistrom wood, magic focusing gladorstones and magic resistant selkidomus scales that make up Hunter’s body gives him a slight resistance to magic.

Hunter is immune to the boiling water of the isles and heat in general because of the Selkidomus scales used in his creation.

Hunter’s blood is neon green, just like the insides of a palisman. After being exposed to air for a few seconds, it turns blood red.

Moving on from those ones and onto something a bit more important, The gladorstone that (if the grimmwalker instruction book is correct) Hunter has instead of a heart that powers his body.

It literally says that the gladorstone is used for “heart and power” and unless it’s talking about heart in a metaphorical sense and Hunter’s non existent magic powers, it’s being used as a replacement for an organic heart and it’s also what powers Hunter’s body. I got two headcanons that take advantage of this fact.

Firstly, because he has no heart, Hunter has no heartbeat. If you put your head up to his chest, you’d instead hear the constant humming of the gladorstone that occupies the space where his heart should be.

Secondly, the gladorstone providing constant power to Hunter’s body means that he doesn’t need to eat, drink or sleep very often. He still needs all those things and does still get hungry, thirsty and tired, but at a far slower rate than a regular person.

Combine that with Hunter’s nonexistent sleep schedule and complete lack of self care and you get someone that can go for a full week without eating, drinking or sleeping and only start feeling the negative effects of it five days in.

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I took a step back and reread what I wrote and I realized something.

Hunter:

Resistant to magic.

Physically stronger and more durable than most witches. Can overpower almost any witch in a physical fight. His staff is even designed to work alongside his physical strength.

Completely immune to the climate of the boiling isles, not caring about the rain and barely needing food and water. There is not a single place on the isles where this kid cannot survive.

Extremely large lung capacity and grimwalker endurance means that he can travel extremely long distances on-foot quickly and preform all sorts of athletic achievements without breaking a sweat. Making it harder to escape from him. The witch he’s pursuing will always tire out before he does.

Barely needs sleep, making it even harder to escape the golden guard.

Name is literally short for “Witch Hunter”

Hunter was built to be the perfect witch hunter. Emperor Belos was trying to make the boiling isles equivalent of the terminator.

Prove me wrong! 🤣

My Response

Since I can't reblog, I'll respond this way.

THIS IS NOT TO ATTACK BUT TO SHARE MY REASONING FOR DISAGREEMENT.

I won't lie. This tweet really bothered me. Same annoyance and sadness with 'You can't criticize percabeth because it's based on Rick's marriage.' I'm not saying you said that, but I see that comment often.

Anyway, I'm going to remain respectful.

You are NOT erasing Percy's character's strength by pointing out the toxicity and abuse of Percabeth. Yes, Percy is not afraid of calling out people's nonsense. HOWEVER, he does that with people he DOES NOT like. Of course, it's easier for him to call out people he doesn't like because it wouldn't affect him.

However, when it comes to people he cares for, that's another story. When it comes to Grover nearly fucking up Percy's quest because he didn't want him or Annabeth to leave him, instead of calling out his selfishness, Percy bites his tongue and BLAMES HIMSELF for making Grover feel that way.

What about when his mother admits she was selfish by not letting him go to camp? Despite being a safer option, she didn't want him going to camp. Percy had every right to be mad. This could've saved him from Gabe. But instead, he still adores her. He doesn't hold it against her.

Lastly, with Annabeth, she's done all sorts of things, like punching him in the gut, judo flipping him with the intention of hurting him, and blaming him for leaving her even though he was kidnapped.

Did Percy lash out? No. There wasn't a retort either. Instead, he laughed it off, and they haven't spoken about it. If anything, he felt the need to make it up to Annabeth. He felt GUILTY for something that was not his fault.

What about when she calls him seaweed brain, a name he doesn't like? A name similar to 'brain boy,' something smelly Gabe calls him to demean his intelligence. A name that ANNABETH finds insulting too, and doesn't want to be called. Does he tell her to stop or call her mean names back? Kinda, but he later GIVES UP and bites his tongue.

What about when Reyna says he 'couldn't find his way out of a paper bag,' and Annabeth laughs and agrees with her. Percy may have said 'hey!" but that's it. Was it talked about? I don't think so. It was brushed to the side.

Percy may be brave enough to stand up to bullies, but he doesn't stand up to his loved ones when they truly hurt him. His fatal flaw being loyalty to loved ones, even when they fuck him over, prevents him from doing that.

Annabeth is nowhere near like Gabe, but that doesn't mean she's not hurting Percy, and you're not degrading Percy for calling this out.

I was in Percy's shoes. I stood up to bullies and people I didn't like. Uncomfortable? Scary? Hell yeah, but I did it anyway. I know what that's like. However, just like Percy, I also brushed off the pain my friends and loved ones caused me. I brushed off my 'friends' fucking me over, even took the blame for them. Why? I didn't want them to leave me. I overlooked when my loved ones would unintentionally say hurtful things. Why? Because I love them and didn't want them to leave me either. Also, I tried to appear strong, too. It's okay now that I had therapy and stuff.

Guess what? Percy does the same thing, and that's worth calling out. Victims of abuse tend to overlook their loved ones hurting them.

I'm not 'minimizing' or 'erasing' Percy's strength and courage for calling a spade a spade, and I can not stand when percabeth stans try to sweep toxic things Annabeth does under the rug. Again, is she abusive and like Gabe? No. BUT she does things that remind me of Gabe, like calling Percy mean names to insult his intelligence. She hits, kicks, and hurts him when he does something she doesn't like. Gabe doesn't do this, but Annabeth would sometimes play mind games or make her boyfriend anxious just for the hell of it. (Bringing up Rachel to make Percy uncomfortable). I'll stop listing.

But I have to say. You said it was 'insulting' to Annabeth to call her actions 'abusive'? I say it's insulting to act like what she's doing isn't abusive or toxic. All that I've listed, she didn't do this playfully or in a lighthearted manner. Annabeth did this angry or annoyed and with INTENT. It wasn't an oopsie! No, she wants it to hurt, especially the judo flip scene. So, do I care if I insult Annabeth? Sorry, but no. I don't care because she's in the wrong. Not always, but MOST, and I don't feel guilty because of her actions and how she hasn't learned (and doesn't want to).

Overall, I hate that these types of arguments become popular. I understand you don't like your ship being called horrible things, and I'm not trying to be mean. Most of us are not. However, we can NOT sweep over some of the things Annabeth or Percy do, mainly Annabeth.

I'm sorry for dumping something heavy. I'm not trying to make this about me. My point is that you're not discarding Percy for calling out Percabeth's toxicity. That's it.

Night

Edited: March 18th, 2025. I wanted to add a little more and correct grammar and typos.

My postage of ‘ship headcanons’ or ‘ship ideas’ is limited and far between bc there will be this one little bitch commenting “ew why do you ship that” or “x character is straight”…and the fact I can’t physically fight you hurts me deeply

Hunter: Yeah, I'm okay, but in like a "if someone hugged me for too long I would cry" kind of way

Amity: That hits different when you're autistic

Hunter: [nodding] I mean it in a general way AND an autistic way; which is as confusing as it sounds

Inspired by your Canon!Marinette post with her worst moments with the Science Kids, I wonder something. Could you make a sequel post with the worst thing/moment Marinette had with the Akuma Class, with Luka and Kagami included?

Kim (Yeah. That’s right. Why don’t y’all sit the fuck down?):

Marinette was pissed at him for that prank, (which he was unsure of doing and asked Chloé a second time if he should still go along with it) that she decided to take revenge and hide some spiders in his locker

… Unfortunately, she just grabbed a random breed and Kim had to go to the hospital to get treated for a shit-ton of poisonous spider bites

Max:

Spread rumors online that he was sexist just because he got upset that he lost to her, subjecting him to a bit of online bullying

Ladybug criticized his video game because it made light of past Akuma victims’ experiences despite the fact he got permission from everyone who’s in the game to add them in, but she was adamant and got a ton of her followers to back her up

Myléne:

During one of Nino’s film projects, when Myléne as the female lead had to kiss Adrien, Marinette tripped Myléne and made her break her ankle so that she, the understudy, would get to kiss Adrien

Marinette was praised for her acting during the kiss scene, and Myléne got an honorable mention in the credits

Ivan:

Insinuated that Myléne could do much better than a “terrifying grunge rock wannabe.”

Claims she doesn’t have enough fabric to make him an outfit, but there’s a whole-ass role in her closet

Alya:

Marinette accused her of being a bad friend for suggesting that she should tone down her crush on Adrien, especially the schedule, and then the argument got heated when Alya yelled and called her a creep, then she got Akumatized

When she was cured, Ladybug basically gaslighted Alya into forgiving Marinette… Also, Laadybug makes sure the Ladyblog is scrubbed clean of Chat Noir because according to her, “He doesn’t do anything but flirt and joke.”

Nino:

Manipulates him into changing up his scripts for class film projects so that she can kiss Adrien despite it having no relevance to the film whatsoever

Marinette keeps trying to get him to tell her everything Adrien says so she can have more information about his life, but some things are private and Nino doesn’t feel comfortable sharing them

Nathaniel:

Continuously forgets to add him to group chats, hand him an invitation to a party, include him on the class roster, etc. And then claims that, “If you actually talked instead of drawing, maybe people would actually notice you.”

Ladybug criticized his and Marc’s comic just because it pointed out a few of her flaws, prompting her psychophants to boycott them and even vandalize their homes. She didn’t apologize until like two months later when they published a comic more to her liking where she’s perfect

Alix:

Continuously drags her into her stupid Adrinette plans despite Alix’s discomfort and protests on how her plans are creepy

When Alix said no once again, Marinette blamed it on her being Aromantic, Alix punched her, and that was the end of their friendship for good

Rose:

Marinette stole the hamster plushie her deceased grandmother gave to her so that she could give it to Adrien when she heard that he liked hamsters, too. Rose didn’t have the heart to say anything when she saw how happy Adrien looked

When Rose confronted Marinette, she guiltrips her and has the audacity to bring up her grandmother

Juleka:

Keeps fixing Juleka’s appearance when she offers to model for her, making her look like a completely different person and not like herself at all- Wig, eye contacts, intense contour, stuffing her bra, etc.

When the comments roll in on her website, Marinette doesn’t bother telling them who the model is and just compliments Juleka on how gorgeous she looks despite that girl in the picture not being her

Sabrina:

Let Sabrina do all the work for a group project while she had to do something as Ladybug… And it lasted well until the morning. By that time, Sabrina finished the whole thing, and all Marinette did was sign her name

When Sabrina confronted her about this, Marinette shrugged and asked what the big deal was. She does Chloé’s work all the time

Chloé:

Decided to rub it in Chloé’s face how Audrey has been offering her dozens of internships and even uses her actual name, just to “knock her down a few pegs” even when Chloé didn’t do anything today

Somehow managed to get a picture of Chloé hugging her teddy bear, and sent it to everyone in school. Chloé was so humiliated that she didn’t come to school for almost a month

Adrien:

The statue scene

Theft

Breaking and entering

Stalking

The schedule

… Anyway, Ladybug broke into his bedroom in the dead of night, sniffed his hair, and then kissed him while he was still asleep

Luka:

… Do I need to say it?

Vents all of her problems to him, makes it seem as though she was unhappy when they were dating, and rants about how “Adrien will never notice me! Help me, now!”

Kagami:

Spread rumors that she and her mother moved because she attacked her ex boyfriend back in Japan because she caught him talking to another girl

Sabotaged yet another contest Kagami was a part of where Adrien was the prize