ANALYSIS OF MIRACULOUS LADYBUG. ORIGINS PART 1 LADYBUG AND CAHTNOIR (PART 1, The Miraculous And And Began

ANALYSIS OF MIRACULOUS LADYBUG. ORIGINS PART 1 LADYBUG AND CAHTNOIR (PART 1, the miraculous and and began )

Well, let's start with origins, this chapter is the most important of all because it begins the entire story and the first pieces of the puzzle, we have to be attentive to everything because THERE ARE CLUES IN EVERYTHING ok let's get to it.

The chapter already starts strong, a narrator tells us about the miraculous, what they are and that they were used to help humanity and here this sequence says a lot.

HERE ARE 2 IMPORTANT POINTS TO RESOLVE.

1 Who created the miraculous? According to the New York special comics, "the Miraculous were created and manufactured by a magician", (THIS ACCORDING TO THE CONVERSATION WITH MARINETTE), so I ask who of all the Miraculous characters gets the nickname of magician? aha Felix, MOTE THAT COMES FOR THE FIRST TIME IN "FELIX" IN T3, BUT THIS IS NOT THE ONLY INTERESTING THING, IF WE ANALYZE THE NAME of Master FU, it also begins with "F" like Felix, meaning that through Fu They tell us about Félix (in the same way that through Chloe we are sometimes told about Kagami and Zoé about Marinette as a teenager) and, to confirm this, in the chapter PRINCESS FRAGRANCE, WHEN SHE HEALS TIKKI, SHE CALLS HIM A WIZARD, SO IT'S CLEAR.

-----FU IS THE WIZARD=FELIX IS THE WIZARD=FU IS FELIX --------

2 the voice of the narrator, THE VOICE of the narrator is nooro, and this is important, if we think about it, it takes us to Gabriel and therefore to Adrien, who will be the future villain, but it also takes us to Adrien Felix wears it because Adrien was born from Felix and from Adrien, the current Felix that we all know was born, So in some way it gives us to understand that this story is being told? read? BY FELIX.

point 1 and 2, may be giving us 2 clues, on the one hand, THAT IN THE SAME WAY THAT Marinette IS A LEADER AND GUARDIAN, FELIX IS ALSO GOING TO BE, BUT WITH A DIFFERENT APPROACH, LET'S REMEMBER THAT HE IS YANG AND SHE IS YING THEY WILL BE LEADERS, TWO LEADERS AND EACH ONE WILL DO IT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.

AND THE OTHER, which IS the theory of MARINETTE'S DIARY.

"MARINETTE'S DIARY THEORY, is a very popular theory that tells us that since she is going to lose her memory, and is currently writing a diary, the series itself is the memoir of Marinette's diary that Adrien would be reading to her. the adult Marinette so that she would remember, that is why the series is titled The Adventures of Ladybug, like a story or a story."

but ONE DOUBT IS IT FELIX OR ADRIEN WHO READS THIS DIARY?, Félix, HOW DO WE KNOW?

-ADRIEN CAN'T BE THEN, Adrien is going to be a villain, So it wouldn't make sense for it to be him.

-WE HAVE THE CLUE ABOVE, that it was a "wizard who created the miraculous", the wizard is Félix, so if he created the miraculous, he created this universe, if we are reading Marinette's memories, that has to be Félix , because with it the creation of these jewels begins, logically including the ladybug earrings.

-The voice is somehow related to someone close to Felix (POINT 2)

-If we don't say well, the insect that nooro represents is a butterfly, a mixture of a winged being and an insect, this speaks a little about the fusion of ARGOS WHICH IS A BIRD AND LADYBUG AN INSECT, therefore this leads us yes or yes to Felix, what's more, if we think about it, nooro is purple, how is purple formed? mixed RED AND BLUE, COLORS OF ARGOS AND LADYBUG

-And finally, the topic of reading is something that suits Felix more than Adrien, since he loves to read.

So they may be giving us a very subtle clue (remember that it is the beginning of the series) that yes, this series is a story told by Félix himself based on what he experienced and Marinette's diary. (THIS IS FELINETTE PER 1000)

The next image that appears is several ancient characters carrying miraculous and using their powers, this is important because here it already tells us a little about the series.

"Miraculous are magical jewels that grant powers and must be used for the good of humanity"

and then in those lines these two images appear

Well, these images already tell us what kind of attitude those chosen should have, first of all they must be brave and protective (something that can be applied to FELIX and MARINETTE, since they are more the ones who protect than the protected) but their ways are very different In the 1st image we see how instead of attacking the enemy, he directly stops him, while in the 2nd he opts for action and combat, this images is telling us about ladybug and chatnoir in action AND MARINETTE AND FELIX, they are those chosen to wear these miraculous because they have a good system of values, therefore, THE AUTHENTIC PROTAGONISTS OF THIS SERIES, that is why this chapter is titled ladybug and chatnoir, because with this sequence, they are saying why, who and what attitudes they should have these 2 boys to carry such great power, but this would also conform to what we said above, they are role models and leaders.

1 image we are told about ladybug, we see that the wearer has the shape of a fawn or deer, deer live in forests where there is a lot of vegetation, and they feed on it, the earth with which of our four protagonists is it connected? with Marinette, she loves vegetation, flowers, this has to do with life, the flowering of it, but we also know how protective and loving she is, and we know that before entering into conflict in any battle she prefers to think and analyze.

The animal that stops is an ox, Who is an ox?

That's Ivan, he is the bearer of the ox that represents the concept of "action" which brings us to Adrien, why? To begin with, through Iván we are told about Adrien, first of all because he likes rock, who else likes rock? Jagged Stone, who also dresses like one, and who is the next of the 4 male protagonists? ?, Adrien, but also, notice that this chapter begins the ivan-mylene ship…this couple starts it all, what is the first ship we see here?, ADRINETTE then, what is this scene telling us? that in the future there is going to be a fight between these two, it is predicting Adrien's villainy, Adrien is not fit to be a superhero, he is too impulsive and brute, and with that attitude he hurts others, with this we confirm what we said In the song of the series, it is not destiny that he is a superhero, and as we progress in the series, you will see how they are becoming clearer, since here we are only going at the beginning.

2 image tells us about chat noir and Felix, through Hercules.

(We know that it is HERCULES because of how he is dressed, this mural is a reference to the myth of Hercules in which he kills the Nemean lion, and tears off its skin, then he puts it on as clothing and a shield, but in this universe Hercules obtains the power through the miraculous of the lion)

We see how he is protecting the Greek women, so the first thing we have to do is notice that this bearer carries the miraculous of the lion, and the lion is a feline, just like the cat, but the difference is that the lions They are bigger and stronger, and we know that clearly Felix is stronger than Adrien because he was created for that, but also, lions are related to the sun and light, an element that we will see is associated with Felix, in fact. , lions live in Africa, precisely a desert place with a lot of sun, so this is also telling us about the counterpart of the ying, the yang, which is the active part, the light, the sun, the action… thus referring to chatnoir, for me it is clear, FÉLIX IS CHATNOIR

but also the fact that this miraculous is the lion's is confirmed in the Feast chapter, in which we are precisely told about Master Fu's past, how what happened to him happened to him, so this information takes us to fu and therefore to Félix, Fu used the peacock miraculous, LIKE FELIX, the sentiser that I believe is called feast, begins with"F" just like Félix, but also, in this chapter we see how the senti that is created, It is indigo blue, and the bearer of all of them has this color, aha Argos, that is, Felix, so here we are talking about Felix with the miraculous of the cat, who also, if you notice, carries a spear like the staff of chatnoir, we see how instead of stopping him, he is attacking unlike ladybug, demonstrating his yang energy, one thinks, the other attacks, one is active, the other passive…etc…

Now we look at who is trying to kill, this creature is a fusion of a lion, EAGLE OR BIRD AND A BEING CALLED MEDUSA, HE CARRIES WITH HIM A TRIDENT, LIKE THAT OF NEPTUNE. This could be telling us that in the future Felix is going to have to face his cousin, and the Tsurugi, it makes sense since Felix joins Ladybug, and Adrien will be a villain, so let's break this down

-LION-TIGER: referring to that feline part that the creature has, if he is partly feline, and Hercules carries a lion with him, this is a FELINE VS FELINE, cat against cat, it would be indicating to us that when Adrien becomes a villain , the cat's miraculous is going to be used for evil purposes, another option is that he akumatizes in Chatblanc and destroys everything and Felix has to stop him, so whatever this may be, it would be giving us the clue to something like that.

-EAGLE: this can refer to the fact that they are clearly telling us in the face, on the one hand, that Adrien is a sentiser, since the wings are related to the feathers and the feathers to the sentisers, but this can also indicate to us that in a future, Duusu's miraculous is going to fall into Adrien's hands, this could make him realize the truth, and want to have it for fear of disappearing just like Felix. SO WE WOULD HAVE a confrontation between Adrien as a peacock and Felix as a chatnoir.

-MEDUSA-if we look closely at the creature's face, we see that it has one similar to a jellyfish, I will tell you who it is since it is important

MEDUSA IS A WOMAN WITH HAIR MADE UP OF SNAKES WHOSE POWER IS TO TURN EVERYONE WHO LOOKS AT HER INTO STONE, PERSEUS DEFEATED HER USING HIS OWN REFLECTION.

This could be referring to Kagami, since she is called the ice queen, and the queen of that story could freeze people, that is, petrify them like a jellyfish, but also, guess what state the senti feast was in, aha HE WAS PETRIFIED, IN STONE!! and who frees him?, who wakes up this sentiser, Mayura, HOW DOES MAYURA'S NAME BEGIN?, with "M" as Marinette, this could be telling us that at some point in the series Kagami and Félix are going to face each other I don't know if Kagami will be akumatized or not, but the point is that this battle Felix will end up seriously injured, or frozen or petrified, his life will be at risk, but Marinette will save him, this clue will be confirmed. later in the series.

So basically Felix as chatnoir will have to face Kagami and Adrien, who are the villains.

"Two of this miraculous are more powerful than the rest"

WE ARE GOING TO GO IN PARTS

This is telling us how powerful our heroes are and therefore more leadership and responsibility, so in a group of many carriers, they COMMAND AND LEAD, THEY MAKE SURE THAT THINGS DO NOT GET OUT OF CONTROL, CONFIRMING US A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOVE, ONLY THIS IS MORE FOCUSED NOT SO MUCH ON THE WEARER THEMSELVES, BUT ON THE HERO. They are a great team, they are strong when they work together, they are both a unit, yin and yang

LET'S SEE THE TWO IMAGES

1 image, HE TALKS CLEARLY ABOUT LADYBUG AND ARGOS AS A TEAM, how is that, well let's first notice that the young woman is clearly Ladybug because of the costume, but the detail is that she is riding a horse, and then I ask what she is wearing relate the horse, aha with MAX and what letter does MAX end with, like Félix, MAX WHEN HE TRANSFORMS IS CALLED PEGASUS, A FUSION OF BIRD WITH HORSE, who is the only male character who rides a horse and looks like a bird? , aha felix/Argos

so this can be interpreted as that in some way Felix is going to guide Ladybug, that is, he is going to be a great help, a true companion, what we already said in the song and the intro, this confirms it for us.

We see that he is trying to kill a dragon, and here the clue is clear, we have to look at what type of dragon that is, IT IS A EUROPEAN DRAGON, NOT CHINESE, OR JAPANESE, AND I EMPHASIZE THIS BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE THINK IT IS THE SAME TYPE AND NO, THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT PHYSICALLY

AND THIS IS WHERE THEY GIVE US THE CLUE, WHERE HAVE WE SEEN THIS TYPE OF DRAGON?

- Well we will see it in this season 1 in the akumatization of Jagged stones, When he becomes GUITAR VILLAIN RIDES ON A DRAGON OF THIS TYPE

- We see it in Crocoduel, where Captain Hardrock faces off, through Anarka they tell us about adult Marinette, so this last piece of information would confirm the confrontation.

-If you look at Jagged's name, it has 2 "G", Gabriel's initial is "G", 2 G, 2 GABRIEL, 2 MONARCHS, FATHER AND SON.

- we see him in Marinette's nightmare at the end of season 5 where it turns out to actually be Gabriel, so with THIS he is no longer saying that it means that we see him in the mural, This is Adrien villain, LADYBUG AND FELIX ARE GOING TO FIGHT AGAINST ADRIEN, Through Jagged Stone they tell us about Adrien, the doubt remains whether he is akumatized or is directly a villain with the butterfly miraculous, but I tell you, it is the 2nd option, since the last appearance of this type of dragon It is effectively how Gabriel and Gabriel is a monarch apart from the "2 G" track, so it is clear, MONARCH IS ADRIEN

2 image, (this one is more complicated so if you see something that I don't, leave it in the comments, the idea is that we all do it together)

Felix is going to save Marinette from her akumatization, how is that? Let me explain, to begin with we see that the woman is Japanese, and is wearing an eagle mask, and that she also has the powers of the same, she looks like a "human bird"

The only Japanese woman is Kagami, if we think of Kagami it automatically takes us to Felix.

We see that both eagle, argos and sparrow are "human birds"

But also, we see that his mask is very similar to that of Jess from New York when he transforms into an eagle, if we analyze the power of that miraculous, what does he use in his favor?, feathers, and who else uses feathers? , Argos, that is, Félix, if or if Argos or Félix is represented through that woman.

Now we are going to look at the creature, it is a kind of winged monster, this can tell us that it will have the ability to fly when it is akumatized, but do you know where the biggest clue is? That this monster is marine, Aha, it comes out of the sea, but not only that we see how the whole sea is stirred up.

What name is connected with the sea and sea creatures?, MARINETTE, marinette descends the name "Marina" which descends in turn from the sea and ocean, the ocean is in turmoil, marinette is in turmoil, marinette's emotions are chaos and When there is chaos that occurs, it clearly becomes akumatized.

If we return again to the character of Jess as an eagle, what did she say to contain the villains who were out of control? He said "calm down", since when Techno was akumatized, he released all of their freedoms and they had New York destroyed with his powers, in the same way Argos is going to try to calm Marinette down so that she deakumatizes....Aguila contains the villains, through eagle they tell us about Argos, Argos is going to contain MARINETTE, to calm her down when she gets out of control, to me it is clear this mural is Argos trying to help akumatized Marinette, the mural is Japanese therefore it tells us that Kagami She is going to be behind this, she will be the one who causes Marinette's akumatization (we will see this later, the show gives clues to that, don't worry)

[now, another possibility is that the akumatized person is also Argos, and I say this because in one of the photos in the book we see, the former bearer of the eagle, with a hairstyle similar to Marinette (more specifically when she the mouse miraculous) but this doesn't make sense to me, since I don't see Felix akumatized, because he has proven to be resistant, however, Marinette, we have already seen how he has been on the verge of being akumatized twice, so for my Marinette has more possibilities.]

"Ladybug's earrings that possess the power of creation and Chatnoir's ring that possesses the power of destruction.

Here we have a clear presentation of the most important miraculouses and what they are for, clear and simple, the ladybug earrings create anything while the chatnoir ring destroys anything.

Now, one says, of course this is very obvious even if you see the chapters in disorder and you don't see this one, but the thing is not that, if they are presenting them to you, not only because of what they represent but because of their shape and color.

I have said in previous posts that they rely on this many times to give clues about what is going to happen, right? Here is a clear example since it is the beginning, so based on that we are going to analyze this entire sequence.

LET'S START WITH WHAT THEY REPRESENT.

To begin, we have to observe the base on which the miraculouses are located, there are several floors in the box and these are in the first and in the center of the entire box, which confirms not only that they are the most powerful. If not, they rule, THESE MIRACULOUS MOVE EVERYTHING, SINCE THEY MOVE BOTH LIFE AND DEATH, so when these bearers are chosen, they must fulfill this role and the responsibility it implies.

The basis on which they are represented are two concepts of Taoism, which are used to represent or refer to the two opposite and complementary, but interconnected, fundamental forces that are found in all things; and that this philosophy attributes to everything that exists.

yin and yang, life and death, darkness and light, etc. all of them are equal but different, they are independent but in need of each other, they complement each other and together form harmony, a perfect balance. Now knowing this, which is which? , clearly ladybug is yin, it is CREATION and chatnoir is yang, IT IS DESTRUCTION and with them their respective jewels, kwamis and POWERS AND EVERYTHING THEY REPRESENT.

Now let's focus on the SHAPE AND COLORS. -COLORS

Creation earrings: the colors that stand out on the base are black and red, these coincide with the colors of the earrings, which are also red and black, which tells us that, these are the colors of ladybug and also about Marinette and therefore we will see it in everything related to her, clothing, accessories, objects, etc...

Ring of Destruction: the colors of the base are white and gray and black, while unlike Ladybug's, the base does not completely match the jewel, it is black, gray and neon green, this tells us that These are the colors of Chatnoir, Felix and Adrien, that's why there is so much variety, unlike Ladybug, because there are 2 candidates, we will see these colors in everything related to them, clothing, accessories, objects, etc...

-SHAPES AND NUMEROLOGY

-the earrings: they are shaped like a circle with polka dot prints, everything is round, so the polka dot prints are representative of ladybug and marinette (which we can see in her clothes, whatever press she wears) we will see this print in everything related to her, clothes, accessories, objects etc...

Now if we look at the number of polka dots, there are a total of 10, 5 in each earring, giving us to understand that 5 is an important number, if we join the points together we obtain a square, a square has 4 sides, and 4 points, 4 is the number of Marinette and Ladybug, well remember that the 4 comes after the 3, and the 3 is Kagami, which represents the arts classroom, who is similar to Kagami and is Asian, Marinette, so when we see the 4 it also refers to her.

The numbers 10,5,4, 8 and the circles are from Ladybug and Marinette and therefore we will see them in various parts of the series, both in conversations, places, etc...

-The ring: okay, the ring is more complex, to begin with it is shaped like a circle whether you look at it from the side or from the front. but we are interested in the front. We see that it is a black circle with a cat's footprint in the center, neon green, this circle is surrounded by some kind of spikes, 4 to be more exact.

Let's start with the cat's footprint, if we add the number of figures, we have 5, just like the earrings, which have 5 polka dots, this on the one hand is telling us that the number 5 is as important as in the jewel next to it, They are the same, there is a coherence and a harmony...that is why those who wear the ring must have similar features to the one who wears said earrings...of course it is more complex because there are 2 candidates, both have similarities with Marinette but not entirely .

Now the footprint is divided into 2 parts, on one side 4 points at the top, and on the other the base that is more different from the ones above, the 4 represents Marinette and therefore in theory it should resettle Adrien, but also Felix because well As we have said, Adrien tells us about Felix, one was born from the other, so when this number is presented we will have to look for other elements that relate it to know which of the two it refers to, since it represents the two. 2.

If we look at the figure below, it looks like a triangle, triangles have 3 points and 3 sides, 3 and 3, 33 arts classroom, kagami, and who does Kagami connect with? with Felix so this number is representative of Felix, also notice that part of the footprint is a bit amorphous, asymmetrical? With whom does he connect the asymmetric figures?, ahaha with Felix, so we have that the triangles asymmetric figures can be connected with him and this will be seen in all the elements, objects, clothes, etc.,...

Now if we look at the peaks that are in the circle and put them together, what do we get? It's a square, just like Ladybug's earrings, but here we see spikes. What shape do the spikes have? Rhombuses, right? So then the simple and basic RHOMBUS AND square would be a representation of Felix, more than Adrien, remember one thing, Felix plays chess, which figures on the board form chess, squares. but everything would be to see the sequence in which this happens, many times they do that in the series.

Therefore the numbers 4 and 3 and 33 are from Felix Chatnoir and Adrien.

So once we have all this analyzed, this would be the scheme to play, and the first clues, through this pattern of colors and numbers, is what the series will start with. HERE YOU HAVE THE SCHEME, KEEP IT IN MIND BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO ALWAYS USE IT AS A REFERENCE AND THUS FIND OUT WHO THEY REFER TO AND WHAT THEY WANT TO TELL US.

(If not, I assure you that it is a mess, since although I have explained it with geometry, and such can be confusing) keep in mind that it WILL be updated AS WE PROGRESS IN THE ANALYZES, now we are at the beginning and we cannot add further.

"Whoever controls both jewels will obtain absolute power."

Well, we are shown this image that would be a representation of what total power will look like when you use both miraculouses, although it may seem like nothing, this image tells us a lot.

The clues are in the background of this mystical man, look what color he is, he is purple, the color of MONARCH, but he also has 6 peaks that come out of said circle, this for me is a very subtle clue that surely the person Whoever Adrien becomes a villain is Kagami, something is going to happen to her, we still don't know what, but something is going to happen to her, I feel like the same story of Gabriel with Emilie is going to be repeated, but this time with Adrien and Kagami .

Let's analyze it, purple is clearly Hawmoth's color but also representative of Adrien (according to the scheme) so it is confirming more of the same that he is going to be a villain, now let's notice that there are 6 peaks, right? If we divide 6 by 2 we have 3 and 3, that is, 33 and therefore the arts classroom, kagami, so the reason will be related to kagami.

Ok let's leave it here, since I want to take it and analyze it in order, in the next post we will see our protagonists and the villains of this wonderful story.

NEXT PART>>>>>

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ANALYSIS OF MIRACULOUS LADYBUG. ORIGINS PART 1 LADYBUG AND CHATNOIR (PART 2, the villain and the heroes )

ANALYSIS OF MIRACULOUS LADYBUG. ORIGINS PART 1 LADYBUG AND CHATNOIR (PART 1) Well, let's start with origins, this chapter is the most impor

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Stuff I learned from the Miraculous Instagram and the wiki's guide on it:

Marinette is a Keysmasher.

2. Nino is probably a Soundcloud Rapper.

3. Kagami does not go to the same school as Marinette and the gang.

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krishnarjunforlife

2 months ago

THIS BIT. THIS BIT THO. Because remember, this is from BEFORE Harry even lands on his "Malfoy is a Death Eater” theory. Like. He hasn't even figured it out yet. But he still spends the entire last week of his VACATION thinking about Draco.

He's in denial though. Obviously he's not obsessed with Draco. No. Draco is just objectively a fascinating topic. And therefore it's totally rational to be annoyed that Ron and Hermione don't want to take part in the perfectly normal hobby of discussing Draco Malfoy 24/7. How dare they?

I just know that after drarry finally happens someone asks Ron if seeing the two of them together feels weird and Ron's like 'honestly it was weirder when they weren't together.'

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krishnarjunforlife

4 months ago

How Gabriel Agreste Destroyed Adrien's Life: A 3 a.m. Analysis

From: ‘I enrolled in a school without my father's permission, I ran away from home to attend the first day of school and although I don't want my father to be angry with me, I'm not afraid of a punishment either because I KNOW there won't be one’.

To: ‘My girlfriend is alone with my father, with no one to protect her, completely defenceless. I NEED TO SAVE HER’.

One knows that his father is a good person who, no matter how angry he is, would never hurt him. The other doesn't, it's the opposite, he is no longer sure of anything, he fears for the safety of those he loves and is so terrified that he is about to have a panic attack.

But how did we get from the first to the second?

How Gabriel Agreste Destroyed Adrien's Life: A 3 A.m. Analysis

How Gabriel Agreste's abuse managed to completely change his son in a matter of days

People don't remember this because it happened a long time ago and has not been repeated, but Adrien used to be a NORMAL person, not as perfect as he is now. While he has always been kind and polite, there were also times when he allowed himself to be a bit hostile and not as perfect as we are used to seeing him (as Adrien, not as Chat Noir). Usually that ‘good boy’ facade was only used in front of his father and Nathalie, but in front of his friends he behaved like a normal teenager, even becoming a bit teasing, self-centred and rebellious. "The Bubbler", "Animan", "Kung Food" and "Evillustrator" being the clearest examples of these behaviours, in particular towards Nino, Chloé and Marinette.

In S1 it becomes clear that the only conflict Adrien has with his father is the fact that he does not give him as much freedom as Adrien would like. Apart from this, Adrien has no other problems with him and considers him to be a good father. There are several of Adrien's behaviours that suggest that Gabriel's overprotectiveness towards him was the only thing wrong with him, but that otherwise Gabriel was excellent. It is time for us to look at that.

1. Origins

Adrien literally enrolled in a school without his father's permission and when his father refused to approve Adrien's attendance, he ran away from home and went running to school. When Nathalie tries to convince him to come back Adrien simply says ‘this is what I want’ and turns around to continue up the stairs, not caring if she has anything else to say. He hears that someone needs help and immediately goes to their aid, and as soon as he finishes doing that he turns to Nathalie and the bodyguard with a charming smile expecting to see their proud faces, and when instead he sees that they are still angry he is immediately horrified and gives up.

This tells us a lot about Adrien: he is a spoilt child who has never been punished in his life, and when things get difficult his first reaction is to be adorable or do a good deed to be forgiven. Adrien intended to leave Nathalie talking to herself, and he wasn't worried about the idea of being punished when he got home from school because he knew it wasn't likely to happen. He then helps someone to ingratiate himself with Nathalie and the bodyguard so that they will stop being angry, and when he realises that it didn't work he is surprised. He is used to people forgiving his disobedience just because he is cute. He immediately gives up and asks Nathalie not to tell Gabriel. While he didn't want his father to be angry with him, he also didn't fear punishment because he knew he wouldn't get it.

Later, at the mansion, Adrien realises that Nathalie did tell Gabriel and he feels betrayed, as if he didn't expect her to do that. Basically, he is not used to people disobeying him. Gabriel again forbids Adrien from going to school but it's nothing he hasn't said before: Gabriel reprimands Adrien's behaviour with words, never with punishment, and there comes a point when words are no longer enough and Adrien is no longer afraid of them, hence he becomes ‘rebellious’. The next day Adrien runs away again and, surprise surprise, he is not punished, in fact he is rewarded. Despite having disobeyed his father again, he is rewarded and allowed to go to school, even Nathalie (whom he treated very badly) offers to help him. This reward is without explanation, just because. I'm not saying Adrien deserved to be locked up for life at home, at the end of the day he's just a teenager who wants to socialise with more people, but it's clear he was a spoilt child whose behaviours both good and bad were praised, just like Chloé and Felix, so if you ever wondered why he was such good friends with them, here's your answer.

2. The Bubbler

Here we get confirmation of how Adrien is a good boy only in front of his father and Nathalie, and how he is himself in front of his friends. At the beginning of the episode he together with Nino makes fun of his father because he does not agree to throw him a birthday party. Then, when Nino is akumatized, he at first refuses to be part of the party because he cares about Nino and wants to save him. Even when he realises that all the adults are trapped in bubbles, he never cares about his father, Nathalie or his bodyguard, only about saving Nino. And then he also gives up on this idea after a little chat with Plagg and says: "Okay, you're right. This might be the first day in my life that I actually get to do what I want for once", and Adrien joins the party without any show of consideration for the adults he knows.

Although all these behaviours were forgotten by the fandom, they are important to understand Adrien's character and how he changed due to his father's abuse. This is the normal behaviour of a teenager with a bit of a grudge: he's not a psychopath who wants something bad to happen to his father, he's a kid who knows that in the end he and his superhero partner will fix everything and he allows himself to have fun in the meantime. But it's something the current Adrien would never do, and there's where the difference lies.

3. Volpina & The Collector

This is the last episode in which we see Adrien acting like a normal teenager. He overhears Gabriel talking on the phone and decides to spy on him, then discovers that he has a safe behind his mother's portrait and out of curiosity goes to investigate. Adrien discovers the book and takes it with him, when he is discovered he quickly makes up a lie. RIP pre-lobotomised Adrien, you will always be missed.

This is the key point in the change of behaviour of both Adrien and Gabriel.

Gabriel confronts Adrien and he immediately gives an explanation in a tone of voice intended to generate sympathy:

—I just wanted to know what you were hiding behind that portrait that was so important.

This doesn't work so he resorts to blaming Gabriel himself:

—You.. you never told me about those things.

And this doesn't work either, so he decides to admit what he did but also looks for a way to justify himself:

—I was intending to give it back to you, I swear. But then I lost it.

Gabriel tells Adrien that he no longer trusts him, and what is Adrien's reaction? He just looks jaded and apologises to Gabriel, in an attitude that makes it clear that he is used to apologising to make things right, that he is not genuinely sorry, and also offers to buy him a new copy, confident that this will be enough for Gabriel to forgive him. This confirms the previous point: Adrien is used to getting out of his punishments just because he looks cute or does a good deed, and this became so repetitive that Adrien already knew how to get out of a punishment, and was not afraid of his father but simply tired of scolding that went nowhere. Again, there is no fear of consequences.

Everything changes completely when Gabriel tells him that this book is unique in the world, that there is no other copy. Apologies didn't work and the other form of redemption, buying him a copy, wasn't possible. Then is when Adrien's face changes completely to horror: he has just understood the magnitude of his mistake. His father punishes him by forbidding him to go back to school and Adrien is heartbroken, but does not try to reason with his father (as he had done, and many times, in past episodes). This is the birth of the Adrien we know now: from a normal boy to a submissive puppet. He knows that there is no way to redeem himself and that is why he decides not to fight, he finally realises that his actions have consequences, serious ones, taking away what is most precious to him: his freedom.

From here on we see a completely changed Adrien, from a rebellious teenager to a perfect doll with no thoughts of his own. Before, he pretended to be perfect only in front of his father, Nathalie and his bodyguard. Now he pretends to be perfect in front of everyone, regardless of whether he knows them or not. The trauma can be clearly seen: Adrien adopts this neat behaviour because he is afraid that his freedom will be taken away if his father finds out that he made another mistake. Now Adrien knows that he CAN be punished. He doesn't even allow himself to breathe in peace because of all the stress and fear he carries. And so it is that Adrien becomes a puppet unable to stop pretending even in front of his own friends: we go from an Adrien who was not afraid to react strangely to Marinette's odd behaviour, who was not afraid to tease Nino about his crush and who was not afraid to put Chloé in her place when the situation warranted it, to an Adrien who could not even keep his back bent for fear that his father would consider it inappropriate.

Gabriel Agreste being a shitty father and exploiting his son's weaknesses to profit from them

Despite being strict with Adrien, there were times when Gabriel let him spend time with his friends and have fun with them. In fact, in S1 there are several of these, most of them to be found there (before all the drama).

In ‘Animan’ he is in the zoo helping Nino with his date with Marinette.

In ‘Gamer’ he is playing video games for the school championship at Marinette's house.

In ‘Kung Food’ he comes to Marinette's house to help her with her uncle and even takes them to the hotel and stays for dinner with them, he spends practically the whole day away from home.

In ‘Horrificator’ he spends many hours filming the movie for the school.

In ‘The puppeteer’ he is going somewhere alone and relaxed.

In ‘Timebreaker’ he is present during the race between Alix and Kim.

As you can see, despite being strict, Gabriel sometimes let his son spend time with his friends. When did this change? After the book incident. After forbidding Adrien to attend school, Gabriel noticed how heartbroken he was and realised that school and his friends were not a whim for Adrien, but something he truly cherished. And Gabriel used these feelings to manipulate Adrien. In S1, before the incident, Adrien is more ‘rebellious’ and still has enough freedom to be with his friends. In S2, after the incident, Adrien behaves much better than in S1 and still doesn't have half as much freedom as before, and when he finally gets his father's permission to be with his friends, something happens at the last minute (Heroes Day Part 2, for example). This is because his father has discovered his Achilles' heel and uses it to benefit himself and manipulate Adrien.

The clearest proof of this is in the difference between ‘Horrificator’, where Gabriel let Adrien spend hours in the school filming the movie, and ‘Queen Banana’, where Gabriel let Adrien go for only a few minutes to the filming and right after he finished his part he literally left in a cage hanging from a helicopter. It is clear the pleasure that man developed in making his son miserable.

And we could talk about ‘Chat Blac’ and ‘Ephemeral’, but I won't touch those topics as they are not part of our timeline. I'll just say that they made it clear how far Gabriel is willing to go (literally traumatise Adrien) in order to get what he wants. What I think, is sick.

Adrien's Stockholm Syndrome: normalisation, justification and romanticisation, and how it makes him vulnerable to unhealthy relationships

1. Gabriel

We have already made it clear that Adrien became an uncritical puppet, and as a result he developed a terrible Stockholm syndrome. Adrien normalised all the manipulation, and by accepting it as something usual this caused him to start justifying it as well. Needless to name the episodes, in many of them there is always someone (usually Nino, Marinette or Plagg) who points out his father's problematic behaviour and Adrien immediately tries to justify it with ‘he does it because he loves me’ or ‘he just wants to protect me’. This shows us a big difference from the Adrien of S1 who was aware of his father's behaviour and even made fun of it, the current Adrien would never do that, on the contrary, he seems to live to justify Gabriel's actions. That's how serious the brainwashing is.

With Gabriel's behaviours now normalised and justified, they in turn begin to be romanticised. Despite being a shitty person, there are moments when Gabriel treats Adrien well: like when he hugs him (something Adrien is not used to), his worried words to Chat Noir about losing Adrien, or when he watches his mother's movie with him. These are all details that if they weren't accompanied by manipulation, anyone could call ‘cute’. And this makes Adrien unaware of the manipulation at first: his own denial and the kind details his father had for him confused his brain. Adrien did not think that his father could be so kind to him if he was a bad person, and that is why Adrien refused to consider him as such. This is a method of self-defence against dangerous situations, the feelings developed by this are not only romantic but any kind of feelings that are enough to make the victim feel safe in dangerous environments.

2. Kagami and Marinette

Let's start with Adrigami. Adrien didn't show a strong interest in Kagami until the chapter ‘Oni-Chan’ where he even rejects Ladybug's fist to make sure Kagami is okay, but what led to this? The romanticisation of obsession and control.

Kagami is simply Adrien's friend, but when she sees a photo of him with another girl, she gets so jealous that she is akumatized and starts chasing this other girl to get her away from Adrien. This is behaviour that is bad as a girlfriend, but even worse as a friend. Adrien doesn't take this seriously and even spends the whole fight making jokes instead of worrying that one of her friends is a jealous girl who is willing to kill for him even if they don't have any kind of commitment. Then, when he sees that Kagami still has the rose he gave her, his behaviour immediately changes and you could say that this is when he starts to feel a real attraction to her, even rejecting Ladybug's fist, whom he had long been in love with.

Here we see how dangerous the romanticisation of problematic behaviour is: Adrien is willing to let go of all the chaos Kagami caused and all her toxic behaviour just because she showed that she really ‘loved him’. And he reciprocates her feelings because he finds it cute that someone is in love with him enough to go crazy. The romanticisation of Gabriel's actions eventually led Adrien to romanticise other people's actions, even going so far as to feel honoured by all the questionable actions these people committed under the justification of loving him.

Something quite similar happens with Adrinette. In S5 Adrien mentions that he started to accept his feelings for Marinette from what happened in ‘The Puppeteer 2’, and there's no way this isn't weird. He had feelings for Marinette long before that, but it was that event that led him to accept them. Marinette literally assaults a ‘statue’ just because it looks like Adrien, starts fantasizing about a life together, steals one of his hair and many other weird things, and what's Adrien's response? To say that he fell in love. He literally saw how far Marinette was capable of going because of her obsession with him, and as much as that behaviour was justified with ‘it was a joke’, instead of caring, what he does is fall in love with her... because of her obsessive and bizarre behaviour towards him.

It is honestly quite disappointing to see how Gabriel's manipulation damaged Adrien to the point of leaving him craving only unhealthy relationships because that was his perception of love.

Both victim and perpetrator

Adrien developed a split personality and a taste for taking advantage of people when he is in situations of power. Gabriel turned Adrien into a victim and a perpetrator, the role depending on the situation. When Adrien is the one at a disadvantage, he displays submissive and manageable behaviour. When he has all the power, he has no problem using it selfishly and taking advantage of others. This was taught by Gabriel, from prudence to ruthlessness, are things Adrien learned from him. And in a way that's how Adrien differs from Chat Noir: the power they possess.

Adrien is always at a disadvantage: his life is in the public eye, everything he does is always monitored by his father or his fans, and if he makes a mistake it is very easy for his father to find out and punish him. This is why Adrien, always powerless, forces himself to act submissively. He does not possess the power in such situations, so he can only act as he is expected to act.

As Chat Noir things are quite different, he always has the power. Chat Noir is a superhero, he watches over Paris but no one watches over him, he has freedom, destructive power, a city that depends on him and a partner who needs him to defeat the supervillains. He has the power. And he uses this power to his advantage.

A clear example of this is his tendency to threaten. Adrien has several times been willing to give up his miraculous and even verbally threaten (in a passive-aggressive way) Ladybug just because it bothers him that she has secrets. All of S2 was Adrien threatening to give up his miraculous if Ladybug didn't tell him her secrets, and this behaviour wasn't like ‘we can't keep hiding things from each other anymore, this isn't healthy for me and if we're not going to be honest it's best to just give up’, no, this behaviour was like ‘if you don't tell me what you're hiding, I'll give this up and you see if you can do it all by yourself or if you find me a replacement’. I understand that he was tired of the situation, but manipulation is never justifiable behaviour. Evidence of this is found in episodes such as ‘Syren’, where Adrien even threatens Plagg with give up his Miraculous if he doesn't tell him what Ladybug is hiding.

Another example is ‘Glaciator’, where he invites Ladybug to a dinner and she makes it clear that she already has plans and is unlikely to go. And yet Adrien is self-illusioned, and when his fantasies are shattered by something Ladybug had already warned him would happen, he simply accuses her of mocking him, throws a tantrum, refuses to help with the akuma, and when Ladybug comes up with a good plan to defeat the villain he guilts her by saying: ‘Sorry, Ladybug, it's not cool to play with people's feelings’ when Ladybug never played with his feelings and in fact realised these only minutes ago.

There are many other episodes like these, too many to list. I guess the most notorious ones are ‘NY Special’ (where he has no problem being unfaithful to Kagami) and ‘Lies’ (where he also has no problem being unfaithful, lying to her, trying to provoke akumatizations and so on). His problematic behaviours are not only as Chat Noir, but also as Adrien when he finds himself in relationships where he has the power. In his courtship with Kagami he knows that she is completely in love with him and uses this to his advantage and does truly horrible things like the ones mentioned above without regard for her feelings because he knows or believes that she won't leave him. Something similar happens with his friendship with Chloé, he knows how much Chloé appreciated him and so every time she committed a bad deed he threatened to end their friendship. It's not wrong to want your friend to stop being a shitty person, and it's okay to let him/her know that if he/she continues this stupid behaviour you'll have no choice but to walk away, but the problem with this is that we go from Adrien's genuine concern for Chloé to empty threats just because, in the end, Chloé wouldn't change her behaviour and he wouldn't leave either.

Conclusions

This is not as well written as I would like it to be. I procrastinated for weeks and when I finally decided to write it I no longer had the series so fresh in my memory. I am a teenager with no professional knowledge of psychology who wrote this at 3 a.m. while I was not so sober.

This post is not salt against Adrien/Chat Noir, in all of ‘Miraculous’ there are only two or three characters I hate and none of those are Adrien, so this post is not hate towards him. While I did describe some of his behaviour in a not so nice way, that was not a personal opinion but an analysis. Like when you go to a psychologist and he doesn't give you his personal opinion but a diagnosis, the main difference being that I am not a professional nor do I claim to be one. Anyways, this is a direct attack on Gabriel Agreste for being a shitty person.

As you may have noticed, most of this analysis is based on S1 to S3. While I did mention some episodes from S4 and S5 they were not as relevant, this is because the first 3 seasons are the ones I've seen the most and ergo the ones I remember the most, maybe later (I don't think so) I'll do a part two on S4 and S5.

Finally: my personal opinion on Adrien. He is an amazing character whose development and build goes unnoticed by the fandom, this is probably because it wasn't done on purpose (if this character build was planned it wouldn't be half as good as it is, the writers aren't that talented). Adrien is just a boy, a victim of an abusive home that ingrained several of his father's behaviours within him and he has no ‘true personality’ as this depends on the situation he finds himself in. He acts this way as a method of survival and although it is not right, it is a psychological response and it is not as if he can help it. I'm really happy that the poor boy is free from his abusive father and I hope that in S6 he can be happy and get therapy.

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krishnarjunforlife

4 months ago

OKAY SO OMG

I just saw the new scene in werepapas when Emilie reads a book? to Adrien and it's sooooo cute omg but the fact that Adrien thinks his father doesn't love him made me.... want to revive him just to kill him a second time!!

Anyways, something also caught my eye: Emilie's eyes are grey, not green and it feels so strange to me because she gave her dark green eyes to Adrien and his are really green in this scene so it's not because of some color thing-y the producer did or whatever. As you can see on the pictures above, her eyes are normally a dark beautiful emerald green but in the scene, they lost all the brightness and color and tht's because SHE IS DYING. She is losing life little by little and her irises are translating it. That is such an amazing detail!!!! But it is also super sad because that means her loved-ones can see how she is dying slowly and the pain she is going through...

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krishnarjunforlife

5 months ago

An Incomplete List of Times Adrien has Treated Marinette and Others Like Absolute Shit

This will be fucking updated when I fucking remember more examples. Very fucking aggressive language because I am fucking pissed off.

Are you willing to fucking learn? Are you willing to set aside your shipping goggles? Are you willing to fucking look beyond what the writers tell you to see what they show you? Then fucking read on.

But if you’re going to fucking ignore all of this and insist that Adrien is a good person who treats Marinette with respect and ‘always stops when she’s uncomfortable?’ then fuck off right now and block me because I am sick of the fucking rape apologism that runs rampant in this fucking fandom

Yes you fucking read that right. Rape apologism.

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(Episodes are not listed in any particular order. Maybe someday I’ll put them in chronological order but that’s a lot of effort.

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In Ladybug, he attacked her because she wasn’t in love with him. He chose a fantasy over the real her, and attacked her twice because she wasn’t in love with him. First he threw his baton at her. And then he fucking tried to Cataclysm her. He would have lost his fucking Miraculous if she hadn’t fucking gotten him away from the Sentimonster and how does he fucking repay her? By fucking attacking her because she’s not in love with him.

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In Syren, he blackmailed Plagg with letting over two million people drown so that Plagg would tell him someone else’s secret identity. He grabbed Marinette’s wrist to stop her from leaving and guilt-tripped her for not telling him information he knew she wasn’t at liberty to reveal to him, which he even fucking admit out loud just to make her feel bad!

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In Oblivio, he sat on the ground and verbally harassed her while forcing her to defend him, herself, AND fight the Akuma all on her own. Because of him, they both got their memories erased by the villain, and while under the Akuma’s influence, they kissed. And then, when they got their memories back, and she found out they kissed, and she was genuinely upset and horrified? He laughed in her fucking face. And called them a couple again, for the third time in this episode alone, despite her telling him not to literally every time he does it. And then when she tells him off again, and tells him he’s the reason they got their memories erased in the first place, after she tells him AGAIN, TO STOP CALLING THEM A COUPLE, he laughs in her face and tells her “We’re meant to be together, m’lady, you’re the only one who doesn’t see it.”

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In Weredad, he tried to kiss her, and the only reason he didn’t suceeed was because the Akuma pulled her away. And the reason that happened? Because she was singlehandedly trying to save her parents’ lives while he stood there harassing her and refusing to help, and didn’t show any fucking concern at all for the civilians even though he knows they’re Marinette’s parents, and even after a fucking concrete statue was smashed into her bedroom, he still didn’t show any fucking concern at all.

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In Stormy Weather, the Akuma threw him to the ground, and Marinette offered him a hand to get back to his feet. He accepted her hand, and instead of letting go, kissed it, forcing her to push him away.

An Akuma turns off the lights in a building, and Adrien has to lead Marinette outside because he can see in the dark and she can’t. Which is fine.

Except that when they get outside, he fucking refuses to let go of her hand, Even when she glares at him and makes it clear she wants him to let go.

He fucking smiles like a kid caught with their hand in the cookie jar, showing He knows that it is wrong, he knows she wants him to let go, but guess what??? He still doesn’t fucking let go.

She is forced to pull her hand away from him.

And then he has the fucking gall to laugh. And we’re meant to be laughing right along with him, because the 45 year old white men writing this show think boys touching girls without their consent is funny.

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In Reflectdoll, he tried again to kiss her hand, but her reflexes are fucking faster now, literally because she’s been dealing with him for three fucking seasons now, so she managed to pull away in time, and you literally don’t even need to fucking pause the scene to see the horror on her face when she realizes what he’s about to do.

[ID: A screenshot from the Miraculous Ladybug episode Reflektdoll, showing Adrien as Chat Noir holding Marinette as Ladybug’s hand, in the process of leaning down to kiss it. Marinette is staring, her mouth fallen open and her eyes bugging out of her head in horror. End ID.]

She then immediately fucking crosses her arms over her chest and turns away form him so he can’t try again

And then he fucking calls her Buggaboo, literally just to piss her off.

Not to mention he almost fucking made her Lucky Charm fail and did not fucking apologize for almost costing them the fight against the fucking supervillain. Instead of fucking apologizing, he told her that she’s the responsible one, and he’s the funny one, so he’s under no obligation to fucking help her to the best of his ability, so if she’s upset with him not helping, it’s her fault for not being more responsible

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In Glaciator, he asked her out on a date, she politely turned him down by saying she already had plans with friends, he blew off his friends and lied to them about it, then when she didn’t fucking come to the date she said she wouldn’t be coming to, he punished her by being snarky and mean, and implied that She was fucking lying about going out with friends, even though he literally fucking lied to his so-called friends and blew off their plans together and refused to cooperate with he to take down the villain until she apologized to him.

After she explains that she’s in love with someone else and can’t return his feelings, he tells her he’s happy with her friendship.

And then he immediately fucking turns around and tells Plagg that he’s happy with her friendship FOR NOW.

The only reason he is “friends” with her is because he wants her to fall in love with him. He is literally being the literal fucking definition of a Nice Guy. He is the fucking asshole creep who thinks that being friends with you is a chore he has to put up with so he can get into your pants. Literally.

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In Frozor, after she’s already fucking told him she’s in love with someone else and wants him to stop asking her out, he fucking once again asks her out, she fucking ONCE AGAIN tells him she wants him to stop, and his fucking response is, “I know that [you already told me you’ve in love with someone else and want me to stop asking you out], but if he weren’t here, would things be different between us?”

Can you literally fucking imagine someone asking you to break up with your fucking partner to date them instead? because that is what he is fucking telling her to do.

Don’t you fucking dare play dumb.

He literally admits out loud that he knows she’s asked him to stop and he knows she wants him to stop but he doesn’t fucking care and he’s going to continue anyways.

Look at the fucking anguish on her fucking face and tell me she’s consenting to this. I fucking dare you.

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In Copycat, he lies to someone else about their relationship and causes the person to become Akumatized, then does not fucking confess to lying to anyone, and Marinette is the one who ends up apologizing to the Akuma victim, after Adrien fucking implies that it’s her fault he got Akumatized.

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Anonymous said: In Prime Queen, “he fans Ladynoir flames on live tv, ignores Ladybug’s feelings and it was HIS idea to kiss for the akuma! (He also looked creepy during his first attempt ngl.) He tries to kiss her twice! And brings up the kiss a third time! The akuma doesn’t even care about the kiss! I don’t have a tumblr but I hope this'l l help get Adrien stans to step off. Everything he did felt wrong that episode.”

In Prime Queen, Adrien also gets right the fuck up in Nadjia’s personal space, fucking caging her in to her chair.

He literally doesn’t move out of her space until she smacks him in the face with her hand by accident.

He calls her Marinette Buggaboo once again, and she once again reiterates that she wants him to stop calling her that.

The moment the idea of them dating is brought up, Marientte recoils, Adrien perks up excitedly.

When Marinette says they aren’t a couple, Adrien buts in that they might be one day, so that she has to turn and tell him “Chat, not now!”. He downplays her feelings, telling her that being asked invasive, personal questions is what they signed up for when they became superheroes.

He then tries to ask her out on a date even though she’s clearly upset and literally just told him she wants to keep their relationship professional. Later, he interrupts her when she’s talking to the Akuma, grabs her by the shoulder, spins her to face him and puts his hands on both her shoulders, makes a fucking serial killer expression, tells her, “Pucker up!”, and leans in to try and kiss her while he is holding her in place.

He stops when she tells him, “not a chance, kitty” but then not even five minutes later he fucking does it again.

And she once a-fucking-gain has to tell him to fucking stop.

Not even five fucking minutes after he did it the first time.

He took her “No” as “try harder”.

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Every single fucking chance he gets, he is trying to kiss her, or leaning into her space, or touching her even though he knows she doesn’t want him to. Every chance he gets, he calls her Buggaboo, even though he knows she hates it. He calls them a couple, even though he knows she hates it. He goes out of his fucking way to piss her off and torment her, because he fucking thinks it’s funny.

Adrien violates every single fucking boundary Marinette sets, no matter how fucking clearly she words it, no matter how fucking simple it would be for him to fucking respect her. Ever single fucking chance he gets he is harassing her both verbally and physically, and yes, he has literally fucking assaulted her at least once because it doesn’t fucking matter that it’s a kiss on the hand instead of the mouth. She didn’t fucking give consent and he didn’t even fucking pretend ask for it. The kiss in Stormy Weather was assault. All of his fucking behavior towards her is sexual harassment.

Here’s A FANTASTIC post by @thewheezingbubbledragon that details Adrien’s abusive behavior in multiple situations, with screenshots for proof.

It doesn’t fucking matter that he’s not harassing her to have sex with him. There is no fucking category of sexual harassment called “romantic harassment”. Any fucking unwanted requests or statements or touching or attempted touching of sexual or romantic nature is fucking sexual harassment.

literally any unwanted touching or attempted touching at all is assault.

Just bcause you ship it doesn’t mean it’s not sexual harassment. Just because you ship it doesn’t mean he’s not abusing her. Just because you like him doesn’t mean he isn’t a fucking horrible person.

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Here is a link to a post with infographics explaining rape culture

@miraculousladybugandconsent literally just has resources explaining sexual harassment, abusive relationships, and healthy relationships.

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Please fucking feel free to add on because I’m sick and tired of being the only one giving evidence for this crap.

The best way to do this would be to create a new post, with the name of the episode, and examples of Adrien’s behavior, and then you can @ me and let me know to add it to this, and I’ll copy and paste it in. If you can include screenshots or gifs, even better.

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krishnarjunforlife

4 months ago

This picture of Marinette is adorable omg

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krishnarjunforlife

4 months ago

Adrien Dropping Hints Again That He Is Chat Noir And Also Wanting Marinette’s Attention

Adrien dropping hints again that he is Chat Noir and also wanting Marinette’s attention

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krishnarjunforlife

4 months ago

My lifetime question has been answered

Thank you Hawkdaddy

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krishnarjunforlife

4 months ago

Guys... i just watched s6e1 and i havent seen anyone talk about it but...

does Lila have DID/OSDD?

(season 6 spoilers under cut)

Like... yall heard what she said there:

Guys... I Just Watched S6e1 And I Havent Seen Anyone Talk About It But...

Us.

She said "us". She didn't have to say that but she did--

Like... we all know she goes by different names (i.e. Lila, Cerise, Iris) but what if those are her alter's names? What if it's not just some disguise/fake identity, but instead actually her alters??

And also when she akumatized the villain there are multiple voices. (Multiple alters?) And one of them sounded male.

(sorry for bad quality)

Male alter?? Maybe??

And also... the way she akumatizes the people... its like she creates an inner world for them where they can converse, unlike Gabriel who just talks. Like... guys... 👀

but idk this is just a theory lol

https://www.tumblr.com/kittenninja14/731916269075480576/hey-yall-i-just-found-this-incredible-video-and

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