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abt percy jackson's middle name - a long post

let's talk about percy's middle name, its implication and what is my headcanon for it!!

first a warning!! i know very little abt actual greek mithology. i've tried to read my copy of odyssey and illiad a total of 10 times and i CANNOT for my life understand that shit. having said that, my mythos knowledge is based on hours on wikipedia sources pages, greek miths articles and more. anyways, this will have spoilers of the Percy Jackson Universe by Rick Riordan.

having been warned, I should start with one point:

percy doesn't have a middle name in canon. From what we've known it's never mentioned a middle name at all, wich is not very uncommon in the PJO universe, as most character do not have one (from the top of my head the only ones that canonically have one are Rachel and Reyna (Rachel Elizabeth Dare and Reyna Avila Ramírez-Arellano))

BUT in most fandom fanfics that feature his middle name, he is called Perseus Achilles Jackson. Again, it is not canon, but it is so common that most people think it is true. Unfortunately, it doesn't make sense.

It's canon that Sally was the one that named Percy, and she chose Perseus, a son of Zeus, as her choice because he was one of the only Greek heroes that in most versions of the myths get to live a long and relatively happy life after their adventures. From what I've known most times Perseus dies of old age or ascends as a constellation along with his mother and his wife, Andromeda.

Now, what are the implications that we know of?

this will be mostly speculation and head canons, so beware!!

i don't think Rick Riordan ever stated, but it is possible to draw parallels between Percy and Annabeth with Perseus and Andromeda, essentially in their first quest, even more in the series. The same is possible to associate with other characters with names derived from Greek myths.

and, until now, all of Percy's quest he has come back alive, even if the world was ending or if he has gone trough Tartarus, he has come back alive.

As it stands in canon, it's often said that names have power !! saying gods, monsters or others names will call their attention, or give them power. it could be associated that those names with History, or a Legacy HAVE more power and purpose behind them. Ex: Castor and Pollux, Jason, could even say Leo etc.

that is great, and reforces that its possible Sally did something right about the naming.

now, next part is a FULL BLOWN HEAD CANON!!

to me, his full name is Perseus Ulysses Jackson. let me tell you why.

Ulysses = Odysseus

Ulysses comes from Odysseus, yes, the Greek hero hated by Poseidon from the Odyssey. Why would Sally do that? Same reason of why Perseus.

Odysseus, despite all his Odyssey, came back home. In the Odyssey, is said he will live the rest of his life peacefully, and apparently he lived mor 10 years as Ithaca's King. There is another myth where he is killed by his son with Circe, but ignore that for this post.

I think it would make sense for the way they both lived that even if Poseidon hated him, that Sally would have her son named after a hero and a general that even after everything he went trough he still made home, still had people who believed in him, even if Sally herself were not there to see him, like Odysseus' mother, at least he would be alive.

Someone that is selfish in a way if that means he lives. In the same way Sally calls herself selfish for trying to have Percy with her for more time during the years before TLT. For that she endured Gabe.

Not that she knew that of course, but the fates could be at work. I'm always fan of a good foreshadowing.

Now Speaking of foreshadowing, next topic

2. Ulysses - Roman name

Ulysses is the roman version of Odysseus, still has the same meaning and the roman version of the myth is not that different. Why roman, then?

First, because my Odyssey copy was with the Roman names and I was very pissed at that when I was 12 and tried reading it for the first time and discovered that the FUCKING ODYSSEY MAN WAS NOT CALLED ODYSSEUS IN MY VERSION, to my frustration.

ANYWAY, second point: Percy has a connection to the Roman since the first book.

In his classes with Chiron, Percy fights in Roman armor, swords and has Latin classes, and while that is all good and cool, i always found it strange of Chiron to teach Latin, and not Greek. Of course, it could be a ruse of Chiron to distance Percy even more from his greek side, while still helping him learn about the world. it could be nothing.

but to me is not nothing.

Percy has a weird facility with Latin at 12 that Jason did not have with Greek at 16. And while it could be argued that they did not have their memories, Percy was a 12 yo boy that CURSED IN LATIN in a time of distress. I bet they did not have classes about "How to curse in Latin" and i doubt Percy searched for that somewhere.

Percy is very connected with the Roman side of the demigod world, he feels drawn to New Rome, goes to the Roman Uni and he gets so wrapped in it he becomes PREATOR in like a week!! while Jason spent months on the Greek side.

Percy has a lot of participation in Both sides of the demigods being a kinda important figure in both camps.

now, a subtopic.

Percy Jackson: Son of Neptune

Percy is presented as a son of Neptune from the get go in camp Jupiter, wich he doesn't protest at any time (from what i remember), the thing is Poseidon IS different from Neptune specially their roots.

Poseidon is primarily the god of the sea. Neptune is the god of rivers, springs, and waters.

Technically, Percy should not have control of any type of water or rivers, his father is the god of SEA, saltwater. Even then, he can control even the rivers in the Underworld. He has such control of "water" that he can control ALL LIQUIDS! That is not Poseidon's domain, the control of Waters is Neptune's.

knowing this i like to believe the following.

Percy is the son of both Poseidon and Neptune. Don't ask me the logistics, i wouldn't know, and i don't care. HOWEVER when you add things up, it makes sense, in my head, at least.

In conclusion, Sally associates her son's fate with two heroes that go trough MANY hardships but get back home, are strong and live kind of happy lives after that. One of them is mainly Greek, being his first name, what he is primarily called. The other is Roman, it is there, but it's not mentioned, but it still is his name, and it gives him power.

Specially, when you think that the roman counterparts all have a child, except Neptune. Pluto has Hazel, Hades had Bianca and Nico. Jupiter had Jason, Zeus has Thalia. Poseidon has Percy, Neptune has no one? seems unequal and unbalanced in a way the gods wouldn't allow.

Not only that but why would Neptune "claim" or let be claimed a son that wasn't his when Rome hasn't been grateful or careful with him? His last child was scorned (i don't remember the name but it's said that they were basically blamed for earthquakes or something in the 1900)

as the series goes and percy draws MUCH MORE POWER from rivers and other liquids than from the ocean, and the time it took for percy to be born he could be powerful from both sides. he is the first demigod of Poseidon in 70+ years, but he is the first demigod rrom Neptune in 100+ !!!

it makes sense that even if he is called a greek, as his name evokes, he is connected and powerful on his Roman side. It is not a coincidence that people thought he was a god when he first arrived in Camp Jupiter.

It's a tribute for both his Roman and Greek sides, to invoke the names and fates of two powerful kings that are burdened with responsibility, and that learned and lived after their quests.

i could talk about this for hours, specially if Epic's Odysseus by Jorge Rivera-Herrans is taken in account (wich I am doing) but I will not elaborate

anyway, Percy's middle name is Ulysses and I'm right, idc.

honestly fuck the forced stancy in season 4 and them trying to bring back the nancy, jonathan, and Steve love triangle

so anyway pspsps come get your aroace steve + bonus ronance fic. oh and also everyone lives :)

i remember that post where its like “damn imagine being in the old hexsquad’s graduating class three of your classmates became coven heads and two of them become wizard steve jobs what a high life success rate for that year” and it’s funny but also like. no it’s not just three coven heads and two wizard steve jobs out of a graduating year. they were all from the same friend group.

you had a friend group of seven and three of them became coven heads and two of them became wizard steve jobs. and one of them became a famous reporter and basically a household name bc he shows up on the crystal ball every night. and the last one became a hermit in the woods but also the most powerful criminal in the country? like that is a success rate of seven out of seven if you count eda’s life of crime as a “successful life” which i do.

like imagine being in that graduating year. literally all your other high school friends are just some guy except for this one group of seven. they mostly stopped being friends with each other by the end of high school for reasons you’re not rly sure on but you see them on the news like every day now.

and then the apocalypse happens and the world is saved by a group of plucky teens and you find out three out of five of them are kids of that old friend group. but they didnt actually end up becoming friends bc of their parents they became friends just cuz. and somewhere along the way they roped in the literal golden guard and an actual titan? oh and theres another girl there too her dads are just some guys. the nepotism in the main character industry is insane

Steve can do the cherry stem trick, because of course he can. Of course he can

He spent a stupid amount of time when he was younger trying to learn how to do it; ate a ridiculous number of cherries and just sort of started sticking them stem and all into his mouth, eating the cherry, and then working on the stem. He has 100% forgotten it’s not just a thing people do, so now that’s just kind of how he eats them - puts the whole thing in his mouth, eats the cherry, and ties a knot in the stem the same way someone might fiddle with a twist tie

The first time Eddie sees him do this, he sees Steve stick the fruit in his mouth without removing the stem and just start chewing and it’s like

Eddie: Did you just eat the… Steve, absently pulling a knotted cherry stem out of his mouth: Sorry, what? Eddie: Eddie: How are you even a real person

He spends the next three to five business days trying to get the thought out of his head. He’s absolutely disgusted with himself; it’s such a stereotypical flirting trick, it’s such a move, but for some reason it’s fucking working on him

(Robin has lowkey been waiting for Eddie to find out about this. She saw Steve do it multiple times with the maraschino cherries when they worked at Scoops and thought he was flirting with her at first before she realized he just… Does That. Like a weirdo.)

Why do I only picture him in bug-goggles?

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This is a continuation of this post I made the other day: https://its-rat-time-babey.tumblr.com/post/682475975290880000/so-i-realized-something-about-hunter-you-know-how

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So I was thinking about how Hunter’s grimwalker physiology makes him immune to the boiling waters of the isles and I started thinking about just how different Hunter’s body must be compared to the average witch. So now I have a bunch of headcanons about the differences between Hunter and other witches. Here they are.

Hunter is extremely heavy and physically strong compared to a witch. A generally accepted headcanon I’ve seen is the fact that witches are very light and aren’t very strong physically when compared to a human, the most common reasons I’ve seen for this being:

The bile sack takes up quite a bit of space so other organs like the lungs and heart must be smaller and by extension weaker so the bile sack fits properly.

Witches have been relying on magic for their entire lives and just don’t need to rely on physical strength much.

Luz, who claims to have “weak nerd arms” was able to carry Amity like she weighed next to nothing.

So witches are pretty light and not very athletic compared to humans.

But now think about what grimwalkers are made of:

Selkidomus Scales for the skin. (Thick, fireproof, magic resistant and heavy).

Palistrom Wood used as keratin and probably cartilage as well, meaning fingernails, hair, nose, ears, and parts of the bone. (Wood is pretty darn heavy, especially when compared to actual keratin, cartilage and bones).

Gladorstones for providing power and serving as the heart. (gladorstones are rocks, and decently sized ones at that. You can’t tell me that they’re light).

Stonesleeper lungs serving as lungs. (Probably pretty heavy considering how big stonesleepers are and their ability to petrify themselves and live, but in the long run they’re just lungs. Massive Lungs that can turn into very heavy stone in the right conditions, but organic lungs nonetheless).

Bone of orlet. (Just bones. Nothing to say here).

Point is all the stuff used to create Hunter weighs a ton and since he’s made of that stuff, so is he. Luz can pick up a witch that’s around Hunter’s age and size like a sack of potatoes, but she struggles to lift Hunter an inch off the ground.

Secondly is Hunter’s physical strength. He stronk. Especially when compared to a witch. He doesn’t have any magic, but he’s got plenty of physical strength, and I have some proof of this.

At the end of hollow mind, Hunter runs out of the owl house. He just swings the front door open and runs. But the house was on lockdown and we were already shown that there were like four different latches on the front door alone. So that begs the question; how did Hunter open the door so easily?

The only obvious answer is that he forced the door open hard enough to break the latches. He broke four metal locks simultaneously in one single, fluid motion. He didn’t struggle or even seem to notice that he did it. So Hunter’s clearly got some serious muscle.

There’s also his staff and how he fights.

First of all, his staff is made from metal. This is because it uses artificial magic like Belos’s staff. But a heavy metal staff also plays into how Hunter fights.

Hunter seems to prefer fighting up close and personal and constantly tries to physically hit people with his staff as opposed to casting spells from a distance.

Makes sense when you think about it. Hunter can’t do magic on his own, but is incredibly strong, so physically hitting someone with a staff is easier and more effective than trying to cast magic.

Hitting someone with a heavy metal staff definitely does more damage than hitting someone with a lighter wooden one. Plus Hunter’s artificial staff is heavier on one end (the end with the crystal) than the other, allowing it to act a bit like a hammer or mace and do even more damage when used as a melee weapon, while wooden staffs are perfectly weighted in the centre with no end heavier than the other so spell circles can be created easier with them.

Hunter can’t use spell circles, so there’s no point in having his staff be optimized for making spell circles. And on top of all that, the winglike part of Hunter’s artificial staff can be used as a sort of axe blade, making it even more effective up close.

Having a heavy, unbalanced metal staff also makes it much harder for someone to steal it and use it against Hunter or other members of the emperor’s coven. The witch will be struggling to properly use the thing due to its weight and unbalanced centre of mass, while Hunter and his grimwalker strength can use it just fine.

Moving on from Hunter’s strength, here’s a couple of smaller headcanons:

Hunter’s lungs being stonesleeper lungs means that he can hold his breath for a very long time and has some pretty strong lungs overall. Stonesleepers basically hold their breath for the entire night since they petrify themselves when they sleep and un-petrify themselves in the morning. They need some insane lung capacity so they don’t suffocate. He can’t hold his breath forever, but he can hold his breath for just long enough for it to be unnerving for those around him.

Since Hunter is partially made from palistrom wood, and palismen are made from palismen wood, Hunter can understand and speak to palismen. Even palismen that he has no connection to. For example, Eda can talk to Owlbert and understand him because that’s her palisman, but she can’t understand Flapjack because Flapjack isn’t hers. Hunter can speak to Flapjack and understand him because Flapjack is his palisman, but he can also understand Owlbert just fine as well because he’s (partially) made of palistrom wood.

The combination of magic controling palistrom wood, magic focusing gladorstones and magic resistant selkidomus scales that make up Hunter’s body gives him a slight resistance to magic.

Hunter is immune to the boiling water of the isles and heat in general because of the Selkidomus scales used in his creation.

Hunter’s blood is neon green, just like the insides of a palisman. After being exposed to air for a few seconds, it turns blood red.

Moving on from those ones and onto something a bit more important, The gladorstone that (if the grimmwalker instruction book is correct) Hunter has instead of a heart that powers his body.

It literally says that the gladorstone is used for “heart and power” and unless it’s talking about heart in a metaphorical sense and Hunter’s non existent magic powers, it’s being used as a replacement for an organic heart and it’s also what powers Hunter’s body. I got two headcanons that take advantage of this fact.

Firstly, because he has no heart, Hunter has no heartbeat. If you put your head up to his chest, you’d instead hear the constant humming of the gladorstone that occupies the space where his heart should be.

Secondly, the gladorstone providing constant power to Hunter’s body means that he doesn’t need to eat, drink or sleep very often. He still needs all those things and does still get hungry, thirsty and tired, but at a far slower rate than a regular person.

Combine that with Hunter’s nonexistent sleep schedule and complete lack of self care and you get someone that can go for a full week without eating, drinking or sleeping and only start feeling the negative effects of it five days in.

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I took a step back and reread what I wrote and I realized something.

Hunter:

Resistant to magic.

Physically stronger and more durable than most witches. Can overpower almost any witch in a physical fight. His staff is even designed to work alongside his physical strength.

Completely immune to the climate of the boiling isles, not caring about the rain and barely needing food and water. There is not a single place on the isles where this kid cannot survive.

Extremely large lung capacity and grimwalker endurance means that he can travel extremely long distances on-foot quickly and preform all sorts of athletic achievements without breaking a sweat. Making it harder to escape from him. The witch he’s pursuing will always tire out before he does.

Barely needs sleep, making it even harder to escape the golden guard.

Name is literally short for “Witch Hunter”

Hunter was built to be the perfect witch hunter. Emperor Belos was trying to make the boiling isles equivalent of the terminator.

Adrino Dad Headcanons

So, let’s talk about Adrino as dads for a minute. We were chatting about Adrien as a dad and @chassecroise​ who encouraged this whole idea in the first place and @ladriened​ collaborated with me on these ideas.

Adrien being excited about the idea when Alya and Marinette have a child of their own, spending days researching it and coming up with the best path to parenthood.

Up until the instant he realizes he has to tell his dad and that means, oh right, Adrien’s going to be a dad and he can never be the sort of dad his dad was. Panic starts up because, even though he loves kids, what if he does the same things his dad did?

Nino steps in at this point, being the calm one to assure him he won’t be like his dad and he’ll care for his kid and won’t leave the baby to a sitter while he works.

That being said, you know he would have Nathalie and the Gorilla involved in that kid’s life.

So, imagine Chat Noir reading baby books during lulls in patrols and he and Ladybug talking about preparing for kids, swapping tips about baby proofing.

Nino following baby blogs and already picking out playlists for the baby.

Marinette designing baby clothes and toys for both of their kids.

Alya and Marinette are absolutely the godparents for their kid. Adrien and Nino are the godparents for theirs.

Adrien and Nino have a black cat themed nursery and at least three ladybug toys.

Adrien commissions Marinette to make a black cat toy with plush headphones, and it is absolutely the kid’s favorite toy. It never leaves the baby’s side.

Adrien being just short of a helicopter parent at times. Panicking when the baby wakes up in the middle of the night, and Nino has to calm him down. “It’s okay, it’s probably just a wet diaper. Go back to sleep. You have work tomorrow. I’ll take care of it.”

Buying a nice keyboard to keep in the kid’s room so Adrien can play lullabies and lull the baby to sleep, because bless that boy but he shouldn’t sing the kid to sleep.

Plagg sneaking the baby Camembert because “Come on, it’s the best food around. You’ve gotta teach the kid taste early on.”

Nino learning all his family’s recipes and feeding his kid all the best Moroccan food, trying to get Plagg to try some, too, because honestly only Camembert?

Alya and Marinette’s baby being Adrien and Nino’s baby’s best friend. Play dates while Ladybug and Chat Noir are patrolling or when one of the couples needs a night alone.

Hiring Nathalie as a babysitter, and she goes above and beyond. She’s invited to every birthday party.

The Gorilla is the kid’s favorite, because he is a human jungle gym and infinitely patient and tolerant.

Alya using her connections to rent out the entire zoo for the kids to explore.

Alya also taking out an entire page in the newspaper to announce Adrien and Nino’s kid (barely stopping herself from getting an actual billboard).

Adrien and Nino collaborating to write songs for the baby. The baby gets an annual themed song for every birthday. (They’ll make a playlist for graduation and they’ll cry for days over it.)

If Gabriel is a part of the baby’s life, which I like to imagine he would, he’d send over designer baby clothes and buy outlandishly expensive gifts. Most of them would be to keep the baby safe. You know he’d hire someone to check Adrien and Nino’s home to be sure it’s up to snuff with babyproofing.

Please feel free to add on! I just wanted to post some of this. And if anyone wants to write a fic based on any of this, feel free (just please, please tag me, because I want to read it!!)

“this ship isn’t canon” to YOU. I, however, am delusional

Musical prodigy Steve, who is way too casual about this gift. He plays seven instruments and could read sheet music before he could spell his own name, and literally never mentions it.

He has perfect pitch and can perfectly replicate a song he’s heard once on the radio. If you gave him an instrument he’s never played before and an hour, he’d made something beautiful out of it. And no one knows.

Well, some people know.

His mom still signs him up for recitals and performances out of state, but Steve never talks about it. He just says he has something to do with him mom that weekend, and then goes to preform in a concert hall in front of hundreds of people.

Honestly, Steve kinda assumed everybody was like that.

His parents never made it seem like it was a big deal. Hell, he doesn’t even consider that he could go to college for music (not that his dad would ever allow it). It’s basically a hobby.

It’s only after concussion number two when he’s sitting in English class listening to Eddie Munson complaining for a week straight about how he has an ‘epic vision’ for a ‘new song’ but it’ll never come to fruition because he’d need a full string orchestra.

And then another week listening to him hum the melody of the song.

And then a couple more days with the studio equipment that his parents got him for Christmas that Steve starts to think that maybe this ability isn’t all that common.

Eddie - still complaining - just stares at him with shock and confusion when Steve sits a cassette down in front of him and tells him to, “Stop talking.”

Honestly, that should be it, right? Steve has spent more effort making mix tapes than that cassette and those were barely a blip in the week so…

So, why is Eddie Munson confronting him at his locker the next morning? Eddie’s hands are all over the place like, “Did you really find and pay an entire orchestra to play my music just so I’d be quiet?”

“No,” Steve says slowly because that’s insane. “I played your music so you’d be quiet… it clearly didn’t work.”

“You can play…”

“Yeah?”

Eddie just stares at him like he’s something worth staring at and then asks seriously, “Do you want to be in my band?”

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