Hello! Love Your Blog And Your Takes, Objective And Sane And Well Researched Chefs Kiss! I Had A Blast

Hello! Love your blog and your takes, objective and sane and well researched chefs kiss! I had a blast scrolling through it like it was my feed yesterday lol can you elaborate on klaus and Paul if possible? People mostly talk about them like it’s already understood but I don’t understand 😭 I’m kinda lost on their (all of them, including stu) dynamic during the hamburg years specifically when it comes to Paul

Aww thank you anon! Tbh I was starting to feel a bit down about my blog and what I was putting out ( the eternal crisis on how to give full answers and opinions without being stupid, boring and annoying lol). So I really, really needed this. :)

Oh Paul vs/and the Exsis, it's quite a long one so buckle up.

Disclaimer: all of the people involved are essentially art kids/young adults who are famously the most exhausting people on the planet. Do not blame them for being dramatic, it's their natural state of being.

If we want to go into Paul and Klaus, we have to kind of start with the John, Paul and Stu. Now these three are a mess that's too big to go into here (though I have THOUGHTS about how Stu is utilised in the Beatles narrative that I'm more than happy to share if asked lmaooo). But in short(ish):

John and Paul had had an intense year and a bit of closeness. Then John meets Stu at art college.

John and Stu become c l o s e for many reasons (being peers, living together, similar artistic leanings + ego, Stu being a gentle guide to John, sharing art projects/poetry/long letters and feelings etc.) They became 'closer than two men' a friend had seen (remind us of anyone gang?). Most importantly, John could be open about his feelings with Stu in letters. If John had BPD which I subscribe too, I think Stu was his 'favourite person' and as Aunt Mimi said his 'special' and 'closest friend' from this period up until his death (though imho the transference back to Paul was starting prior to his death).

It's not clear what exactly happens as there's differing accounts but Stu uses his money to buy a new bass as John wants him to come to Scotland then Hamburg and play bass as he will 'look good'.

Paul doesen't like being relegated to the seat behind John and Stu when he used to sit next to John. He also isn't thrilled when he gets to Hamburg and not only does he get to sleep in the other room with just Pete but Stu cannot be arsed to play because he's hanging out with his hot new girlfriend Astrid (more on her in a sec). Our boy has spent a lot of money he doesen't have and given up on further education to be here and is jealous and annoyed.

Paul and Stu probably were friends and I think their mutual antipathy is overegged. HOWEVER, can't be denied that Paul is jealous of Stu and Stu is jealous of Paul (and getting flare-ups from increasing brain damage). John and Stu tease Paul and steal his money, Paul is mean to Stu (as are the others encouraged by John). Do I think John was playing games with both of them? Yup. They end up scuffling onstage because Paul said something about Astrid (not clear what, one account is that Paul said that Stu could borrow money off Astrid if he needed it which isn't really that bad a dig but who knows Yoko??).

Why is this dynamic important? Because it directly impacts the 'Exsis' (Klaus, Jurgen and Astrid's) group's relationship with Paul:

The Exsis were young artists living in Hamburg. They were artistic, cool, interesting and edgy. They were paramount in introducing the Beatles to cool new concepts, aesthetics and ideas. They also took themselves VERY seriously ie pretentious as all hell.

Astrid met Stu at Kaiserkeller and hit it off. They embarked on an all-consuming romance.

Letter from Stu to Astrid, c.1961

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I've seen people say they were the proto-John and Yoko in terms of making their romance the whole world and influencing John years down the line and I can see that. With Astrid and Stu it's far more endearing though because they ARE young and the right age to have a relationship like that. Stu is popular with the Exsis in general and brings them into the Beatles group.

The Exsis didn't like or trust Paul. Astrid said later it was because Paul was 'too nice' which she herself admits is a ridiculous reason. The others also thought he was a bit of a show-off. It makes sense though if you're cool and edgy and want to stick it to the world to be sus about a guy being friendly show-off with seemingly no inner world. The other problem was a perfectly reasonable one imo, you're not going to like your friends frenemy who you don't connect with. Compound that with Paul not taking drugs as much as George or John and being in the other room and you begin to have a division.

Paul had been popular his whole life, like from what we know since-primary-school-popular. He had never been in this position before, let alone in a foreign country. I believe it became a bit of a brutal feedback loop. Paul's response to this type of behaviour consistently it to go more surface level, snide and passive aggressive. The natural response of any group with a designated 'ugh' person is to become more shady and exclusionary. The cycle continues and gets worse. Stu letters back home at this time says that in a shocking turn of events Paul is hated by everyone but Stu 'just feels sorry for him' (lmao OF COURSE you do Stu, its giving 'loathing' from Wicked lol). Klaus drew a lot of artwork of the early Hamburg Beatles that includes this highly unpleasant picture of Paul in 1961 which I think says a lot:

Hello! Love Your Blog And Your Takes, Objective And Sane And Well Researched Chefs Kiss! I Had A Blast

Klaus is also a musician and fancies himself a place on bass. When Stu leaves to pursue art, Klaus asks John if he could take over but John says that he thinks Paul is going to do it.

Klaus has later gone on to say that he thinks he was a better bass player for the Beatles' sound at the start and then Paul developed into being better for the group. It's one of those I cannot believe those words actually left your mouth and you are not deeply embarrased moments. But it's important to keep this desire and viewpoint in mind.

Klaus stays in touch with all of them and close to John and George, George especially. They visit Klaus on holiday in tenerife in early 60s and Klaus later draws the Revolver artwork.

This whole context of how they met and Hamburg is crucial and has to be taken into account when hearing Klaus' statements. Klaus and Paul started off with a lack of connection and with Paul on the outs, the Exsis got an incomplete view of Paul and an inaccurate snapshot of the Beatles dynamic overall. This is why when Klaus says 'Paul was always slightly apart from the others' and that 'divorce was inevitable' from early 60s we should remember that that is what Klaus is expecting to see as that's what he saw in Hamburg.

Klaus wanted to be the bass player (and was holding out hope to join a band with George and John in the 70s), was really close with George and suffers as many did with 'John Lennon aspiring boy bestie syndrome' (JABBS). Paul had what Klaus wanted and from the Hamburg experience, you could see why Klaus thought he might have an in and may have been jealous of this 'shallow' Paul of all people having the connection that he felt he should/could have with John and George. As with most sufferers of JABBS, he took John's side with everything, always refused to say any regrets about his involvement in How do you Sleep and thought Paul was fine with the song because 'he was even closer to John than [he] was. (Again Klaus to put yourself in that level of closeness with John that it's comparable to Paul is ???.) JABBS and its secondary condition PMIETGSH (Paul McCartney isn't even that good shut up) are virulent diseases that incapacitate sufferers objectivity and judgement, so it's fair to say that Klaus is a source you have to take with a pinch of salt on the early 70s period.

It seems that Klaus and Paul did get on a lot better the older they got (probably without the jealousy complication of George and John) and developed a sweet friendship. Here is Klaus' tribute to Paul for his 80th:

LOVE TO PAUL
Klaus Voormann
LOVE TO PAUL Today - June 18th -  is Pauls 80th birthday. But what to give such a great artist, human and friend on this f

Here is the jam session he's talking about:

He now wants Paul to live in his house lmao so things have gotten warmer. But Klaus and Paul's dynamic is a great example of how and why natural bias, little jealousies and spats can consciously or subconsciously influence our internal narrative and why we need to be so careful about not taking one perspective as gospel.

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Genuinely surprised if you haven't come across these quotes from the following YouTube videos yet: "The woman who saved Paul McCartney | 60 Minutes Australia" @6:25 & "Paul McCartney sets record straight on relationship with Lennon | Parkinson Interview 12 Oct 1997" @22:20. Seems to me like Paul's literally admitted he's not straight already and I'm living for it even if it flew under the radar

“Did he love you?”

“Yeah, I think he did actually. It wasn’t a spiky relationship at all, it was very warm, very close, and very loving.....homosexuality was still largely illegal sure...but then the business came and the lawyers arrived...”

PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS I’M MELTING - 22:20

4 months ago

Paul McCartney covering Twenty Flight Rock in One Hand Clapping (filmed in 1974)

“I went round to see [The Quarrymen] afterwards in the church hall place. I talked to them, just chatting and showing off. I showed them how to play ‘Twenty Flight Rock’ and told them all the words. They didn’t know it. Then I did ‘Bee Bop a L[ula],’ which they didn’t know properly either. Then I did my Little Richard bit, went through me whole repertoire in fact. I remember this beery old man getting nearer and breathing down me neck as I was playing. ‘What’s this old drunk doing?’ I thought. Then he said ‘Twenty Flight Rock’ was one of his favourites. So I knew he was a connoisseur."

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“I was pissed that day,” says John. “So I probably wasn’t all that clued up. I was very impressed by Paul playing “Twenty Flight Rock.’ He could obviously play the guitar. I half thought to myself ‘He’s as good as me.’ I’d been kingpin up to then. Now, | thought, ‘If I take him on, what will happen?’ It went through my head that I'd have to keep him in line if I let him join. But he was good, so he was worth having. He also looked Elvis. I dug him."

- Paul McCartney and John Lennon on meeting at the Woolton Village Fête on 6 July 1957. Within Hunter Davies, The Beatles: The Authorised Biography (1968)


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2 months ago

If you don't think Paul would be a difficult person to know irl you're a fake fan and don't deserve him. He has the heart of a sweet little boy and the mind of an egomaniacal dictator who runs a small, wealthy country with absolute, terrifying authority and a cult of personality so strong history will never pierce it and the truth will wither in darkness. Idk I guess you either get it or you don't.


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1 month ago

it really is a shame john never got to see the eyes of the storm pictures because if someone photographed me like this I’d marry them on the spot

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1 month ago

beatles links for when you’re feeling sad 

when the interviewer spit on george 

“well, we just sort of wanked :o oops sorry!”

“can we talk about your quotes on lsd?” GASP

the whole ken dodd 1963 interview where they were all smiley and laughing 

george pushing john into oncoming traffic 

random singing in an interview followed by fighting 

oh how the tables have turned 

george smiling while ringo is working out how to play octopus’s garden

“morning paul!” “morning rich!”

i talk about george reacting to this boy a lot but it warms my heart 

something about the announcer telling the audience the beatles are so excited followed by a shot of ringo stoned makes me laugh 

paul waiting for his turn with ringo’s attention so he can show him a random painting 

john the baptist 

i don’t even want to know why george was laying there 

“SHUT UPPP.”

“shut up while he’s talking..” 

ringo’s dance moves 

paul mccartney making mashed potatoes 

the good ‘ol shakespeare skit 

“if we did know we’d form another group and be managers.”

“thanks for the purple heart”

everything about this video 

“where could we go” “argentina?”

the way he screams gets me every time 

the beatles first radio interview 

“hey mister can we have our ball back!”

john throwing a pillow at paul 

eric lennon 

baby beatles

“what have you grown up to?” “29.”

“she looks more like him than i do.”

george speaks his own language i swear to god 

iconic george and ringo interview 

pattie and george interview 

learning about new cameras 

“why are you called the beatles?”

morons 

george dancing “aye i like it, do it again for me.”

george dancing again 

john dancing 

this is the saddest thing ive ever heard john say 

their dumb texas interview that includes the “john’s wife” joke 

george hitting himself in the face 

“you’re the first person from liverpool i’ve met” “great.”

mockers 

george being cute and paul being moody 

john and paul doing impressions 

“we aint written no poetry”

these bloopers 

“they’re entitled not to like us and were entitled not to have anything to do with us.”

“i don’t mind whether i’m remembered or not” and he’s now considered one of the greatest artists ever 

i’m sharing the yoko and john screaming in the studio bc it does make me laugh tbh 

cynthia..you deserved the whole world and i hope you’re happy wherever you are. 

love by john lennon 

hey jude by the beatles 

i’m happy just to dance with you by the beatles 

do you want to know a secret by the beatles 

hello, goodbye by the beatles 

all together now by the beatles (it’s catchy. leave me alone)

the guitar solo in i saw her standing there 

john’s stand by me cover 

here comes the sun by the beatles 

in my life by the beatles 

keith moon’s cover of in my life bc i love it so so so much 

“and in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.” <3

5 months ago

They look like the two bitchy gay art students who judge everyone for not being avant-gay enough

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4 months ago

HELLOOOOOOOO????


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