Orang3cathaver

Do you engage with commentary by sex workers at all, including those who advocate for decriminalization or who aren't activists but oppose their clients being criminalized regardless? It seems to me that your concerns are for women generally, because you falsely believe that decriminalizing sex work would lead to further misogyny by validating the purchase of sex, but that you don't seem aware of what sex workers think and feel about the subject at all.

When you're speaking over a marginalized group and insisting you know better, that tells me you don't value their opinions or see them as worthy of listening to.

Do you engage with commentary by sex workers at all, including those who advocate for decriminalization or who aren't activists but oppose their clients being criminalized regardless?

Yes, and I disagree. I’ve read and listened to plenty of sex workers who argue for full decriminalization. I still fundamentally disagree. That disagreement doesn’t come from ignorance, it comes from looking at the broader consequences. And as it turns out, many current and former sex workers agree with me. Do you 🫵🏾 listen to them?

It seems to me that your concerns are for women generally, because you falsely believe that decriminalizing sex work would lead to further misogyny by validating the purchase of sex, but that you don't seem aware of what sex workers think and feel about the subject at all.

I’m very aware of what pro-decriminalization sex workers say. Sex workers can be wrong. Being directly involved in a system doesn’t mean you automatically have the clearest view of its harms.

Also, "falsely"? Wdym "falsely"? How can validating purchasing sexual access to women not lead to further misogyny, a cornerstone of which is male access to and control over women's sexuality?

When you're speaking over a marginalized group and insisting you know better, that tells me you don't value their opinions or see them as worthy of listening to.

The opinions of pro sex work workers are not more or less valuable than anti sex work workers. I take issue with the idea that disagreement equals dismissal. I’ve listened. I’ve read the arguments. I still believe the normalization of sex work hurts women and that includes the women working in the industry. I am not obligated to fall behind a line of thinking just because a particular person is saying it.

In conclusion, feminism isn't a girl's club. It isn't here to support anything a woman does. It's about female liberation, and that doesn't change because some of the people working against our liberation are also women. There are pro-life women too. There are anti-suffragette women too. Why don't we listen to and validate them as well?

It is not more feminist to align with pro sex work rhetoric simply because a sex worker asked you to. Not everything a woman does is feminist. not even everything a feminist does is feminist. we can't advance if we're too busy coddling and "listening" and being too afraid to question.

That’s crazy imagine if there was a gender of people who’d been systemically oppressed and subjugated for millennia, told they were the root cause of evil in society, told they were objects and not humans, raped killed and abused, enslaved, banned from some forms of artistic performance because their existence was “corrupting morals”, stripped of their bodily autonomy, and blamed and used as the scapegoat for every single problem in the world. I’m sure they’d also collectively become horrible hateful bigots with no care for any other human too, right? Oh wait. Huh. That’s weird. They’re not.

My pussy disagrees

Sex is why women are opressed

Gender is how

“my legally protected gender” must be nice. i wish women had like, legally protected humanity

Fortunately not, but it’s good to have hopes and dreams. Hold onto those. I’m sure you don’t have much else.

“You will never be a woman” lmao it’s nice to be affirmed as a trans man. Transphobia failed successfully

This man is a pedophile.

OKAY I’M OUT. this is the last straw

Misogyny on the Harry Potter sub is crazy. Everyone bending over backwards to villainize Hermione while defending Ron, James, Snape, Sirius, Draco, and every other dickhead in the series, ten bajillion “Umbridge is worse than Voldemort” posts and comments…this is why I stay away from fandoms.

And then a braindead post about Hermione being an insufferable, close-minded know it all today…yeah, I think you tend to seem like a “bossy know it all” when you’re the most intelligent, capable witch of your age and no one listens to you. Also calling her sadistic and cruel when she:

1: Manages to shut up a journalist whose entire career centered around discrediting, bullying, and lying about a teenage boy, half-humans who never harmed anyone, and an elderly man. Rita Skeeta stalked children for tabloid stories, ruined careers, and spread disinformation that massively delayed any widespread action against fucking wizard hitler.

2: Jinxes another student who sold out dozens of her peers, including her friends, to Dolores Umbridge, an actual sadistic freak who routinely tortures children. It’s fucking acne, Marietta will get over it.

3: Is jealous because the boy she likes is going out with someone else and being an insensitive asshole to her…? I think pretty much any teenager would conjure birds to peck at their longtime friend turned crush in this situation. It’s not like she fucking castrated him Jesus Christ 😭

And then people saying she’s unempathetic and mean spirited…the girl who wanted to help everyone, to her own detriment…

Hermione, they’ll never make me hate you.

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