Do You Engage With Commentary By Sex Workers At All, Including Those Who Advocate For Decriminalization

Do you engage with commentary by sex workers at all, including those who advocate for decriminalization or who aren't activists but oppose their clients being criminalized regardless? It seems to me that your concerns are for women generally, because you falsely believe that decriminalizing sex work would lead to further misogyny by validating the purchase of sex, but that you don't seem aware of what sex workers think and feel about the subject at all.

When you're speaking over a marginalized group and insisting you know better, that tells me you don't value their opinions or see them as worthy of listening to.

Do you engage with commentary by sex workers at all, including those who advocate for decriminalization or who aren't activists but oppose their clients being criminalized regardless?

Yes, and I disagree. I’ve read and listened to plenty of sex workers who argue for full decriminalization. I still fundamentally disagree. That disagreement doesn’t come from ignorance, it comes from looking at the broader consequences. And as it turns out, many current and former sex workers agree with me. Do you 🫵🏾 listen to them?

It seems to me that your concerns are for women generally, because you falsely believe that decriminalizing sex work would lead to further misogyny by validating the purchase of sex, but that you don't seem aware of what sex workers think and feel about the subject at all.

I’m very aware of what pro-decriminalization sex workers say. Sex workers can be wrong. Being directly involved in a system doesn’t mean you automatically have the clearest view of its harms.

Also, "falsely"? Wdym "falsely"? How can validating purchasing sexual access to women not lead to further misogyny, a cornerstone of which is male access to and control over women's sexuality?

When you're speaking over a marginalized group and insisting you know better, that tells me you don't value their opinions or see them as worthy of listening to.

The opinions of pro sex work workers are not more or less valuable than anti sex work workers. I take issue with the idea that disagreement equals dismissal. I’ve listened. I’ve read the arguments. I still believe the normalization of sex work hurts women and that includes the women working in the industry. I am not obligated to fall behind a line of thinking just because a particular person is saying it.

In conclusion, feminism isn't a girl's club. It isn't here to support anything a woman does. It's about female liberation, and that doesn't change because some of the people working against our liberation are also women. There are pro-life women too. There are anti-suffragette women too. Why don't we listen to and validate them as well?

It is not more feminist to align with pro sex work rhetoric simply because a sex worker asked you to. Not everything a woman does is feminist. not even everything a feminist does is feminist. we can't advance if we're too busy coddling and "listening" and being too afraid to question.

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