this is the only thing i want pls omg
HOW
DID NO ONE TELL ME
THAT LEVERAGE AND THE LIBRARIANS
HAVE
A buncha idiots found my pro Tony/anti Steve post because they can't stay out of tags that upset them much like toddlers that want to keep eating lemons despite hating the taste, so I guess it's time for another hurricane of pro Tony/anti Steve posts
Also, for the record: Steve insisting on being in the battlefield despite being a liability is not noble nor inspiring, it's stupid and belittling of the people that helped war effort despite not being able to go to the battlefield. So sorry that your "pretty Captain" looks down on people that won't or can't be in the front lines, but it is what it is. He was lucky he got the serum, and even luckier that it made him so big no one would go against him.
Tony Anti: Tony should’ve understood that Bucky isn’t in control
Me: Tony didn’t get aggressive bcz of Bucky. He got angry when he found out someone he trusted with his life has been lying to him for the past two years about his parents’ death just so that Tony could keep funding his project. The first person Tony hit was Rogers, and Bucky was only included in that fight bcz he would never let Rogers fight alone.
He also only had .2 seconds to process all that trauma, whereas if Rogers had sat him down at some point and told him, where the murderer (no matter how unwilling, Bucky still killed them) wasn’t literally standing right in front of him, and where Tony would have had a ton of emotional support, the outcome would have been entirely different. Rogers just couldn’t risk Tony not funding his project bcz he never saw Tony as anything more than a selfish billionaire and so it was ok for Rogers to manipulate him.
Steve Stan: Steve didn’t have any projects.
Me: His search for Bucky... Someone had to have funded it for the two years before Civil War. By that point, SHIELD had fallen apart and there’s no way the US government payed for that. Rogers was also living on Avengers Compound, which was built, managed, and funded by Stark Industries
Steve Stan: Your points don’t make sense.
kayytx:
jess-b-thot:
steve: tony, i’m gonna need you to focus-
tony: and i needed you.
this one single exchange in endgame is literally everything.
tony saw this coming. he warned the team that another alien threat was imminent. inevitable. but they all dismissed him - steve dismissed him.
the team didn’t think they needed to be prepared or have preventative measures in place; they’ll fight threats as they come and they’ll do it together. tony had warned them that that wasn’t enough; that they would lose. and steve was okay with that; “we will lose together.”
tony said he wanted to end the fight so that they could all go home and steve said that every time someone tries to stop a war before it starts innocent people die.
and then, the avengers were divided. steve left and so did the rest. they were no longer together like steve promised tony they would be.
tony was left all alone.
only tony remained an official avenger.
only tony took the responsibility and weight of the entire world on his shoulders.
only tony was desperately preparing for a war that he alone knew was coming.
and then the war came, just as he predicted.
and they lost, just as he said.
but were they together?
no.
tony lost alone.
on an alien planet billions of miles away from earth - away from the team, away from steve - tony watched helplessly as his son-figure, a wizard, and the guardians all turned to dust around him, leaving him alone with a blue alien stranger.
and with zero promise of rescue, tony had accepted that his resting place would be amongst the stars. he closed his eyes and he was finally ready to rest.
but fate had other plans for him.
he’s not allowed to rest; not yet.
and so tony is brought home. reunited with the team who left him.
and here is steve, the man who once told tony that he was okay with losing, now refusing to accept that he lost.
for years, tony had said they needed a plan, but now, after they’ve already lost, is when steve wants to use it.
now is when steve needs tony to focus. now is when steve needs tony to come up with a plan. now, not before. now, after the work is already done.
now is too fucking late.
“tony i need you” “and i needed you”
that’s exactly the thing, and tony pointed it out.
“they do their best work after the fact.” steve only ever looked back, after something has already happened. he did the work of an a-venger. tony was looking forward. he saw what was coming and wanted to stop it before it was too late. he was doing the work of a pre-venger.
that’s the fundamental difference between the two of them.
Thinking about the fact that Steve has always been a rulebreaker and even before he became Captain America, he was allowed to get away with it because he was sickly Steve Rogers and as Cap, he was given leeway because he got shit done. Steve Rogers never learned that his actions have consequences because he was never around long enough to see them through.
Comparitively, Tony was a rulebreaker too, and during that time, he made enemies and allowed his ego to get the better of him and he knows and recognizes this. Tony strives to better himself by sticking to the rules because his experience says that if he does what he wants with no regard for who he hurts in the process, it is worse in the long run.
This was what caused the conflict between the two factions in Civil War. Steve had, a few years prior, taken down Hydra, and by extension SHIELD. No attempt was made on his part to attempt to remedy that, which meant that one of the only safegaurds put up for super-powered individuals was gone. With SHIELD gone, there was nothing to protect the Avengers from retribution from the governments they’d been operating in.
Tony opted to sign the accords because he and his army of lawyers could probably unravel the whole thing with time.
But Steve didn’t want to wait. He wanted instant satisfaction without considering the consequences of his actions. His team consisted of people with plenty to lose (Scott, Clint etc.) and his actions got them into serious trouble because Steve ‘I get what I want’ Rogers couldn’t wait.
Tony Stark learned from his mistakes, chose to take his experiences and grow as a person. Steve didn’t, he never had to face the consequences of his actions and henceforth, continued to be reckless and cause problems for himself and those around him.
You know what we do to people when they behave like Steve does? We put them in grippy sock jail or therapy. Steve simply got away with a slap on the wrist following the events of infinity war.
flinging your friends over your shoulder like potato sack. dangling them by the scruff stacking them up in your arms like laundry shoving them into your purse etc etc i love it
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from this screenshot from 'starcrossed'
I think you’re a fool if you think Tony should have acted rationally after finding out his parents were murdered, watch said murder, have the killer right there and have your “ I don’t like when my teammates hide things from me” teammate right there who had known this entire time, never saying anything.
No one would be thinking rationally in that moment .
There was nothing actually wrong half the time, he just thought it was funny.
But then when they get upset, so that no one figures him out- he tells them their panicking inadvertently helped them avoid the terrible thing .
Cass knows and backs him up.
Everyone believes Cass.
Duke can see a few moments into the future but will deliver it in the most needlessly cryptic way
Jason and Bruce are arguing. Just before Jason storms off, Duke says, "If you walk out that door, you will experience unforeseeable pain and have no one but yourself to blame"
And Jason's all, "Stay out of this, Narrows"
Then he trips over his shoelace and Duke's like, "Told you so"
Dudes my acc has been like 5 reposts a year but I wanna change that! I’m hoping to start posting weekly! I’m probs gonna focus on Marauders and MCU for now.
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