Even though This Love is part of 1989 album it was still written on Oct 2012 which is before the public Kaylor timeline
I am also aware that it could be about several people, but this aims to look at the song from a Kaylor lens and see if we have evidence to back it up
Many suggest that the song is about Liz because of the lyric mv
Closely resembling this
so it could possibly be about them but it could also mean a realization that happened during this trip (sorry, Liz). This trip happened in August 2011, the month after she then wrote Red and several songs that would be in the album
Again this was written Oct 17, 2012, I would say that if it was about Liz and she was so emotional and happy about that love coming back maybe she would be inspired to write it in 2011 and not more than a year after. but who knows
so for the Kaylor stuff, Karlie posted this 4 months before Taylor wrote the song
I sometimes connect Betty and HYGTG with what happened in 2011
Where in August 2011 Taylor went on a trip with Liz and maybe had some realizations during that time. She crashed Karlie's party in September and attended the fashion show and even said I love Karlie Kloss in her first US Vogue feature (which was only published in June). Karlie, maybe had enough and told her to go fuck herself but maybe realized how serious Tay was only in January but then Taylor already had some entanglements etc
So after realizing in Jan that she maybe still had a chance and decided to go for it (slowly, idk). just conneting the 'high tide' line with the long six months here.
And let's remember that Josh and Karlie supposedly met in June 2012 and tend to celebrate that anniversary however it could also be viewed as Karlie and Taylor rekindling
remember when Karlie posted the wrong number of years they were together? that was funny
aside from this we have several lyric parallels for songs that we've known as Kaylor songs
I mean who else is she talking about? not only did Karlie refer to herself several times as a giraffe plus the taymoji of a female giraffe
Taylor herself has called Karlie during their BBF interview
I have a theory that Betty happened in 2011 when she took that trip with Liz in August and so this line could be about the same thing
Other lyric parallel
and Taylor has numerous photos of them (according to Secret Sessioners too) around her homes
and this line from dress
and of course, Style - which I also believe to be a Kaylor song
let me know your thougts!
One of my closest friends who has listened to me discuss Kaylor over the years listened to my 2 Gaylor podcasts and has been deep diving Kaylor for a week……
and she’s like OH MY GOD…..ITS TRUE
This is what we mean when we say it can’t be taught—people *must* do the research themselves with all the mountains of data and evidence still available online for it to truly click
Do you think that people have remembered yet that time that Taylor and Karlie were publicly next-door neighbors in Bedford, New York during Spring 2020 because Taylor was staying at Ryan and Blake's vacation home in Bedford and that Taylor even shot the footage for the Spotify visuals for folklore in Bedford and Blake and Ryan's closest neighbor in Bedford is that Karlie with that cabin of hers? 🙈
ostensibly a stones throw away
lots of people remember that she released folklore on the engagement announcement anniversary and that the album photoshoot is basically where the wedding photos photoshoot was,
but point out how you can easily deduce they were both in the same neighborhood when taylor did the photoshoot? instant amnesia.
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Let me begin this by saying it took me a long time to put this out because I wanted to respect various muse timelines, etc. But I also realized I wanted to at least know the almost/maybe truth (since only Taylor knows).
These are based on interviews, Taylor's journal entries, music video/s, and also compared notes to other fandoms like Gleeks and took a look at Liz's lyrics and social media posts.
Eras Tour mashup Chart
Style
Enchanted
State of Grace
Begin Again
Holy Ground
Message in a Bottle
Everything Has Changed
When Emma Falls in Love
This Love
Back to December (w/ Enchanted and Dear John)
*Disclaimer - these analyses are based on what Taylor said during Bevan's interview that her and Karlie met in 2008
for excel sheet of timeline and my unecessary musings pls see below
My musings/realizations
Many of the songs in Red cannot be about Dianna since a lot of them were written before they met, it's possible they met earlier but we also have to take into consideration Lea/Dianna timeline since they seem like they were serious with Dianna moved in with Lea
I feel like Julianne Hough had a bigger role in Taylor's early life, some lyrics seem to describe her particularly I Bet You Think About Me
Liz going to Eras on 8/3 was sus - side: she reposted @taylorklosscomeout138's post (with all the gaylor and kaylor tags)
It's good to look at Liz's discography too, she seems to be talking about Taylor and according to her lyrics that she fell for the other person esp Nothing Personal and H8u and the other person wasn't as serious as they expected
This link gets updated each time we find something relevant
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Holy Ground was written in February 2012 (journal entry below), as you can see on the TL Taylor was still hanging out with Liz (Jan - March) while also hanging out with Dianna (not March bec of tour).
Liz was reportedly recording Jenny Turn Around with these lyrics which signals an imminent end
then -
Taylor's Vogue interview after the Rodarte SS11 show which Karlie walked in - Sept 13, 2011
Taylor's first cover story with US Vogue was out
In response, Karlie tweeted
Dianna also tweeted
In Feb, Taylor performs with Liz, hangs out with Dianna
and then writes Holy Ground which is a song reminiscing about a relationship that ended some time back and feels melancholic so it's weird to write this song for either Liz or Dianna.
Why would you write this line if the person you want to be with is there hanging out with you?
Although popular lore says that Holy Ground can be loosely translated to Dianna (Diana - Divine - Holy) Agron (Field/agriculture - Ground), the connection is too loose. Other easier options would be Divine/Holy Fields.
and the way Taylor used Holy Ground in her lyrics implied it being a physical safe space for the person she's missing
Many think that because of the line below that HG is about Dianna but it can't be because (1) She went there in April, months after the song was written and (2) Taylor did not sign it or anything. It does not look like her handwriting too, although I am not an expert but it looks very different.
Now, we don't know when Karlie and Taylor started but it's safe to say they were introduced in Apr 27, 2008 at Young Hollywood Awards and have been in the same space as you can see Taylor in the front row
It's hard to imagine Karlie saying they talked and had a baking date then Taylor's shout out saying "I love Karlie Kloss" and say they have never met. On print, on her first US Vogue cover, unprompted. Forever immortalized.
Then the last they saw each other allegedly is September and can be a reason for her reminiscing.
This is not evidence but again I feel like Taylor has always been conscious in using names of places even word to refer to her muse, and New York has always been hers and Karlie's.
So this next line below could mean both the city and their moment being very short or hurried or limited.
and then she is keeps on pointing that she has been talking about the same person not only in Red but also in Lover and in TTPD
all the dancing - maybe Taylor just loves to dance
The way we follow logic here is that we see a connection to Karlie that makes sense as intended use in the song
Holy Ground - Tribeca - safe space
Then building on it by adding timelines of potential muses and the context of the whole song itself -pining and melancholia, and missing someone
Tied together with lyrical parallels throughout her discography giving us tiny clues of what the whole story she's trying to share with us.
Woke up to Tayliar at it again so I'm here to make it very clear that "Lucy" is NOT Lucy Dacus. Lucy refers to Lucy Simon, Carly Simon's sister. We all know Karlie is named after Carly Simon, so who does that make Lucy? Karlie's sister, Kimby Kloss.
Lucy ELIZABETH Simon
Karlie ELIZABETH Kloss
Carly ELISABETH Simon
If you don't believe me that Carly Simon, Lucy Simon, and James are entirely relevant to TTPD, here is some concrete proof. TTPD released on April 19th, you know what else came out on exactly April 19th in 2016? Taylor's 73 questions with Vogue interview where she said that her favorite song lyric was "I had some dreams, they were clouds in my coffee" from You're So Vain by Carly Simon and then she made this lyric the visual ending of the KARma MV. Right after the Carly Simon comment she filmed the iconic "You should take her to Big Sur" scene before walking back in where you can see photos of her and Karlie framed on the shelf. .....on April 19th. It is undeniably connected.
Now I'm going to back this up with the HEAPS of evidence that majority of TTPD is through the lens of Karlie and Taylor being the reimagined do-over of Carly Simon and her exes James Taylor/James Hart. You're going to want to take a seat for this one.
Lucy was in a sister musical duo with Carly Simon and guess what the genre of music was? Folk. Hold onto that thought about Taylor being James in Folklore because she was named after James Taylor, that's important. Also keep in mind Betty is short for Elizabeth, tying Betty to Karlie/Carly.
Lucy Simon is best known for her work as a composer in the musical The Secret Garden. Sound familiar? It should, and it's from the song of Taylor's that puts this puzzle together.
I hate it here starts off with the lyric "tell me something awful, like you are a poet, trapped inside the body of a finance guy." And then goes on to say "I hate it here so I will go to Secret Gardens in my mind".
Now remember how I mentioned Carly Simon had 2 James exes? Sure everyone knows about James Taylor, but what we all looked passed for so long was Carly's second husband, James Hart. And when you look him up, you find something that matches that prior lyric a little.. all too well.
James Hart also known as Jim, was a closested gay poet who worked as an insurance salesman and he did not come out as gay until 20 years into his marriage with Carly Simon. In other words, James Hart was a poet trapped inside the body of a finance guy......
Taylor is James Hart. And this was the James she named herself after in Folklore, not James Taylor. She has metaphorically been James Hart majority of her discography, and she told us in Lover.
Remember how I said James Hart remained closeted for a total of 20 years of marriage to Carly Simon? In Daylight, Taylor says "I've been sleeping so long in a 20 year dark night, and now I see daylight"
This is where we pivot back to the James Taylor of it all because it is important to note that Carly Simon and James Taylor's wedding anniversary is on the first day of Daylight Savings being over, Nov 3rd.
On Nov 3rd 2024, exactly 38 minutes before Daylight Savings ended and after Taylor just played "The Prophecy x This Love" and Maroon x Cowboy Like Me... Karlie posted herself at a WEDDING with MAROON nails in broad DAYLIGHT despite it being 1:22am Central, doing the TTPD peace sign.
You seriously can't make this up.
Daylight Savings ending meant the clocks went back, like going back in time, to change the Prophecy. Now Taylor explains the Prophecy as being destined to not end up with her one true love. And she mashed it with "this love came BACK to me". Which is the entire premise of The Alchemy with lyrics like "making a comeback to where I belong, your heart said it's STILL reserved for me."
And the final piece of evidence that this story of TTPD is told through the reimagined lens of Carly Simon / both James is in The Alchemy. Because the alchemy IS what undoes The Prophecy.
In The Alchemy Taylor says "he jokes that it's her*in but this time with an e." , and many fans have struggled to understand what this lyric refers to... but it is very obvious for those who have paid attention to her use of Carly Simon and James Taylor.
So now we turn to the question, WHY did Carly Simon and James Taylor split in the first place? I'll let you read.
Meaning when you put everything together, the overarching message is that THIS time it was different, THIS time their love came back to them, because the person named after Carly Simon, and the person named after James Taylor, DID end up together in the end. Changing "the prophecy" that destined their love to fail in the same way that Carly and James did.
Also the "heroine" part to the joke is because in this version they are both women.
And it all goes back to Red with Begin Again. Because who would she be talking about that had as many James Taylor records as her, if not the woman who was quite literally named after Carly Simon?
I wonder if she ever gave us any sign that Begin Again was about Karlie.... oh wait.
In the Begin Again MV you can see a CAR license plate in the background, and it literally has Karlie's full name and birth year in code.
11 = 11th letter of alphabet = K = Karlie
EZ = Elizabeth
K = Kloss
92 = 1992
K EZ K 92
Karlie Elizabeth Kloss 1992.
Taylor really went:
“Wonder if you regret the secret of us?”
And proceeded to have her team slowly unveil a decade old lesbian drama
karlie kloss out in nyc post the met gala
Whispers
I’ve been thinking a lot about the theme of whispering in Taylor Swift’s lyrics, as ‘whisper’ is used repeatedly, album after album (36 times total).
I first noticed the connection of present day Taylor speaking to her muse in imgonnagetyouback the same way that she does in Enchanted.
This got me thinking about when it was that Taylor actually met Karlie, which if you do a deep dive into the lore as @sophietv did, you can see that it was likely in 2008. Enchanted was released in 2010.
Then there’s the connotation of whispering about a secret love, a forbidden love. It continues throughout Taylor’s work, a constant struggle to be with the one she cannot.
There are references to shared, secretive moments, whispered confessions. She’s with her lover in the dark, hidden away from public sight. Her true identity is concealed.
The connections, or Konnections rather, are so strong. When you peel back the layers of each album, you notice the continuity of themes and a singular muse in Taylor’s work. Her truth is clear. Her muse is undeniable.
I really want to know why no swifties question why the hell she kept going after the groom in this video. What is their excuse?
How about looking at the bride and gifting her the scarf while this line played?
Anyone? Hello??