good evening honorary scholar in oasis lore!! im pretty new and idk whether i just hot everything mixed up or it really happened buy did noel and liam retreat somewhere together after they had a huge fallout again? like left the city went somewhere secretive and stuff i think in the 90s? made up there and all that
who knows maybe it didn't happened at all and my mind just mixed everything together but still <3
The sequence of events can sound a little far-fetched if not an outright wishful fantasy, so I will keep strictly to the bare facts and quotes lol:
In the fall of '96,
(you remember '96, of course: Liam announcing he was getting married and Noel being pissed about it and then kissing him in front of 40,000 people, and then shortly thereafter they do the biggest concert of their lives, immediately after which Liam fails to show up sober for MTV Unplugged and then doesn't go to America with the band and then shortly after he does show up, Noel walks out of the tour and returns home -- that '96, yeah?)
"everyone" in the UK is freaking out that Oasis has finally broken up. No one from Oasis is really saying anything.
Liam flies back to the country... and is kidnapped from the airport:
(^ from Jill Furmanovsky, apologies for the janky photo)
He was brought to a country house where Noel was staying and the two of them holed up there for a while to patch things up.
Creation Records has announced that despite rumours, Oasis aren’t splitting. Noel and Liam Gallagher were at a secret location ‘spending time together and getting over jetlag’. The brothers have phoned their mum Peggy to assure her that Oasis were not about to split. ‘They phoned me at home to say they are both well and the band is not splitting up. They didn’t tell me where they were but they are both very happy. It was as though nothing was wrong.’ Astonishingly, they have been left alone. No one could find out where they went; after disembarking from their separate flights, Noel and Liam left London for a secret location where they met up and were still together as we went to press. Guigsy, Bonehead and Alan travelled to different destinations … Johnny Hopkins said: 'Noel and Liam got together to hang out. They're on good terms-yeah, totally. They're mad for it. Of course they're friends. They're staying together and getting over the jetlag, just chatting away.' – Melody Maker, September 1996
"No, me and our kid went to a country house. The pair of us stayed there and got pissed. Me and him weren’t arguing. We got slaughtered. And Marcus [Russell, manager] was saying, ‘Lets put a press release out’. Me and him [Noel] were taking the piss, going ‘Fuck it - if anyone asks where we are, tell ‘em we’re chasing sheep round the fucking country.’ But it would have started to get silly. So we put one together. -Liam, 1996
We all give Cousin Greg shit for turning into a nasty person, but this deleted scene (that was filmed but got cut) made it clear Ewan was as much of a nightmare to grow up around as Logan. Greg was inevitably fucked as much as the siblings.
Writing insults on your grandchild’s forehead is very, very bad.
Reminiscent of the “shame mirror” that Logan used to do his kids if he ever caught them crying.
LIAM&NOEL during CHAMPAGNE SUPERNOVA 11.03.1997 | Lille, France
"maybe noel is talking about love from a women's perspective?" maybe he's talking about being in love with his brother. which one is more likely? huge misogynist empathizes with a woman for the duration of a song, or guy who has always been weird about his brother is being weird about his brother?
Not him putting oasis and blur in there in a inspiral carpets letter to fans in 91 😭
Bonus:
- i always remember that. - you weren't there. i was on me own.
cute liam, cute noel
I'm....I'm aghast. I have so many feelings about these two. So first of all, I had to create a oasis timeline a few days ago to keep all the gcest things straight (Gay) and I feel like It's getting out of hand with how much absolute batshit crazy stuff they have done and continue to do.
That MV is so see through its insane. Also Noel and Liam both think the other writes exclusively about them? I keep falling deeper, lord save me. OKay but Liam singing about how Noel will always be a Gallagher brother. and "You told me we could live forever". i need to breathe ouuughh. And now they're back together, but I'm sure Noel thinks he can Just Be Brothers. I mean that is obviously going to go either horribly wrong or amazingly right. Either way I'm here for it. AND,,,, MIGHT I ADD,,,, one of the first lines of One of us is about how 16 years ago we fell apart or smth. that song came out in 2020 and ACCORDING to my Oasis timeline, nothing much happened in 2004? Which could mean that the brothers had an awful year and Liam just somehow didn't do anything crazy at Noel for 12 entire months, OR THAT he knew about the Oasis getting back together thing in 2025 (16 years after 2009 when they broke up...)(Ignore my delusions I am overdosing on The Gallaghers absurdity).
And on the topic of always being blindsided by these guys, yeah I keep finding lore on just how crazy they are. I mean I just yesterday found out about the time the band tied Liam to the ceiling and the whole time he was up there he was uncharacteristically quiet, then once they took him down all he said was "I really enjoyed that". Or Noel joking-but-really-being-worried about the cycle of incest continuing with his own kids.
With all that out of the way, I found them on ao3 by scrolling the b/b incest tag lmao. I was bored and decided to try and find some fics of one of my favorite things, brothers in love, and I kept stumbling across Liam/Noel fics. After like 10 I was like "Okay what's all this oasis business about anyway". I had no clue what they looked like and I was honestly expecting the worst (boys are gross ): -said the boy) so I googled them. God was I wrong, they're gorgeous. Then I was like fuck it, let me check tumblr. I found this Gallaghercest list of incestuous lore that lead to me researching all the events on it. As soon as I began I had to start a timeline because they do too much stuff. Also as soon as I started I was so taken aback by how many people are into it, and then immediately taken aback by how many people DONT see it for how entirely obvious the brothers are. Even if they haven't actually had sex (which they almost certainly have), they do have a really unhealthy codependent relationship that truly borders on incestuous-- and that's only the things caught on camera or in interviews.
At first i was surprised by the star shaped tambourine lore, then the loch lomond kiss, then ALL THE OTHER KISSES. Those kisses are probably on the tamer side of what they do and say, which I keep finding as I keep learning about them. I feel so lucky that I found them, but also I need to focus on other things in life. I cant even yap about them to my friends!!
Goodness gracious, sorry for the long ask. Can you tell I just spent that last week ingesting oasis content (they're all I listen to anymore) <33333
never apologise for a long ask, we're absolutely living watching this unspooling trajectory of insanity for you 😂. it's beat for beat what we went through, down to the instant archival spirit of "gotta make a timeline" lmao. have you found the gallaghercest primer and the oasis/gallagher timeline yet? both indispensible jumping off points.
re the "16 years ago" line in one of us, it's possibly a reference to an incident in 2002 when noel and his then-girlfriend (now ex-wife) sara briefly split up. noel's passport disapeared just before they went on tour, which was obviously a huge issue that caused a bunch of drama. almost immediately thereafter, noel and sara messily broke up for a few months, noel went on a bit of a bender, grew a depression beard, was photographed drunkenly riding on some hot boy's shoulders, etc. in 2018 (which is probably when one of us was written) liam claimed (via tweet) that sara was the one who stole noel's passport, causing them to break up and noel to "come crying" to liam. presumably by now you've also learned that sara and liam fucking hate each other due largely to noel-related jealousies, and that liam blames her for oasis splitting up/staying split up. since there's really nothing else Known about what that 16 years ago line might be talking about, seems quite possible it's regarding the last time noel & liam were a sara-less unit, when noel was potentially making liam some promises that ultimately didn't stick.
the tied to the ceiling thing is..... let's just say it's very near and dear to our hearts 🙃🙃🙃. for reasons.
there's just like...... no end to The Lore lmfao. as soon as you think you've hit some kind of bottom or plateau, SURPRISE, MOTHERFUCKER!!
oh and also love for you that you googled them with low expectations but ended up pleasantly surprised 😂. that was. well. not our experience it must be said. but we knuckled down and reprogrammed our brains and now we're all unibrow fetishists, god bless us everyone.
this gif makes my dick hard
Liam and Noel ♥️🤍
Oasis; 10 Minutes Of Noise and Confusion documentary, 2001