SHOW NO MERCY. Have some feels.
Ford "Icarus didn't flap hard enough" Pines
Minor detail, but did F stay in Ford's cabin when he first came to GF? J3 wrote that F left for somewhere while Ford (with Bill's help) finished off the rest of the calculations
I'm not sure, but I think it's implied that he has an apartment? At least, the room he's at in the memory gun footage doesn't match with any room we see in Ford's cabin, once made into the Shack or otherwise. It might not even be an apartment anyway, but it's definitely not Ford's place.
And an apartment feels more likely, since Fiddleford was only planning to be staying in Gravity Falls for the duration of the portal business. Buying a house and dealing with the mortgage instead of simply renting an apartment for however many months this ordeal was feels like a waste. We see moments later in the footage that Fiddleford was living in a hotel of some sort, probably after failing to pay up rent for his apartment or some other reason probably related to his growing insanity and the worsening state of his room. Either way, he wasn't living in Ford's home as the change from an apartment to the hotel happened 273 days after the first recorded exposure for this specific memory, likely far after Ford was portaled. And we know Ford's house wasn't being lived in by anyone other than Ford when Stan arrived.
anyway, this got long but I hope it was useful. I tried to look for other references to where Fiddleford was going in the journal but I couldn't find anything (at least not in the regular one, perhaps there's something in the blacklight one, doubtful but y'know) thanks for asking
Stanford Pines is sapiosexual and idiotsexual for Stanley Pines.
Oh, you’re still here? More under the cut off :)
Listen, Stan is an idiot, but not because he’s stupid or poor traversed academically. It’s because he has no sense of self preservation. Hell yeah, gonna go beat the shit out of a pterodactyl at my big old age of 62 for my niece! Cataracts? Psh, eye sure don’t know ‘em! Up against a crowd of the living dead? Gotta do it for my niblings! Glasses, who needs them? (Until Stan actually really needs them to actually see anything at all and it hurts to look in the mirror, but that’s a story for another day.)
And Ford pretends that he hates how self sacrificing Stan is, but it secretly makes him all gooey inside that Stan was and is a better person than he’ll ever be. Stan’s self sacrificing ways stem from his love for his family, not from any true idiocy. It reassures Ford that Stan, no matter how much of a kleptomaniac he is, still loves with all his heart despite how everything in his life has mangled him beyond repair. Stan’s love is the one thing Stan has left for himself, and he loves fiercely. It soothes whatever inkling in Ford that doubts that Stan broke his science project on accident, despite how long ago that was.
But, another darker part of Ford adores that he has to take care of Stan when Stan fails to, because Stan needs him to, because Stan can’t take care of himself without Ford, because Stan needs Ford to keep him in check, and because Stan needs him. Ford relishes in this satisfaction of knowing that Stan loves him to the point of self-destruction—which subsequently makes Ford go down a spiral of oh my god I’m just like Bill how could I do this to my own flesh and blood? I am sinful beyond redemption.
Stan appeals to Ford’s sapiosexual side because he taught himself quantum physics while running a business, and successfully convinced the government that he was dead. And I don’t think anyone else mentions this, but he also successfully convinced all his enemies he was dead. For 30 years. With how many enemies Stanley Pines had? That is an impressive feat even Ford recognizes. Rico? Oh yeah, Stanley Pines died in a car accident. Really sucks, cause I was gonna extort him for money and peel his skin off with the back of a rusty fork.
And Ford fucking preens in this fact. He can make advanced quantum physics jokes and Stan will understand. Stan might not laugh, but he’ll understand and Ford will pull a chuckle out of Stan that just makes his insides go all gooey all the same. He’s not alone in his academic interests anymore. Stan understands. He always did, but now he understands understands. Stanley was never just the twin with brawn, but now he’s the brawn and the brain in the most tempting ways for Ford. His strength was always attractive to Ford, but his brain? Absolutely a temptress.
It feeds into how Ford, after all this time apart, wants Stan and Ford’s life to consume one another in the ways it never could in these past 30+ years. Ford desperately craves the codependency they had in their childhood, the suffocation. The saying “You don’t know what you have until it’s gone” is very much applicable to Ford’s longing. Stan’s self sacrificial ways and the academic fruits of his resilience satisfy Ford’s cravings.
Now, if only Ford could admit these feelings.
Happy Valentine’s Day!
so glad i can finally share this- here's something i did for a secret santa event!!
Merry Yaoimas!
Fiddleford isn’t nearly as athletic as Ford. Now, there are probably Blind Eye members more capable of chasing after Stanford if they were trying to forcefully erase his memories, but that doesn’t mean they’d be successful. The man may be depriving himself of sleep, but he’s built up enough brute strength and endurance to escape. He made it home after collapsing in a truck stop parking lot, and managed to fight Stanley in the portal room.
The Blind Eye members wouldn’t know the layout of the forest and mountains as well as Ford. He spend years out by himself in nature, trying to drink in every detail. Even the members who know the forest because they grew up there haven’t looked at the forest the same way as him. These are people scared of the supernatural who willingly joined Fiddleford’s memory erasing cult. They aren’t going to be experts in Gravity Falls guerrilla warfare.
The memory gun eventually made the Blind Eye members forget who their founder was, and the forced use on the townsfolk made everyone stupider. The young people like Soos and Wendy haven’t had their minds erased as often, so they aren’t affected like the adult population. While pre-portal journey Ford would be up against the first generation of cultists before they forgot Fiddleford, I still feel like the effects of the memory gun would hamper their efforts to hunt him down. Especially if he goes into the mountains and woods full of creatures these cultists have been trying to forget.
Bill would be annoyed like a bratty toddler if Stanford lost his memories, so he’d oppose it too. Not out of care for the man [shipping them is extremely gross], but because he’s impatient to get that portal running, and takes too much delight in tormenting Ford. Knowing this group of people is afraid of the supernatural, should Ford be captured by the cult somehow, Bill would intimidate them into letting him go. Or beat them up using his body.
5. Ford was becoming aware of Fiddleford’s use of the memory gun before he left the project. He was already getting [rightfully] paranoid about Fidds before the reveal that Bill was evil, but that paranoia only got worse after the fact. He’s no coward about it; the man still went into town and was chasing Blind Eye members to try and find out who they were. But yes, Ford is smart and anxious enough to watch his back in town, in case the Blind Eye tried to get him.
6. Fiddleford wasn’t just the founder of the memory erasing cult, he was also the most addicted to using the machine on himself. Which explains why he lost his mind and became homeless so quickly, while the other members like Ivan are still sane enough to run the cult. Pre-portal journey would also be the time when memories about Bill were the freshest, so it’s safe to assume Fidds was using that ray on himself plenty. Even though both men were in a deteriorating metal state, Stanford was not as unwell or near the point of insanity.
7. Ford was always better at dealing with the stress of dangerous anomaly attacks and horror, which served him well in those thirty years beyond the portal. He also survived for 30 years while an outlaw, homeless, lost, and still at risk of possession [until he met the Oracle]. If it got bad enough in Gravity Falls and the cult was looking for him, Ford could survive in the wilderness just fine. Or escape to another town in Oregon or the surrounding states. But he’s probably return as soon as he thought they had given up to make sure the portal was secure.
8. For Ford to be turned into a shell of himself like in the drawing, he’d have to have something integral to his identity erased. Something like “the supernatural” or “weirdness” itself. But A. That would probably break the memory gun or require an hour’s worth of memory canisters. And B. That would so obviously send the poor guy back to when he was a toddler that Fidds would immediately realize he messed up. Why a toddler? Because he hadn’t met the bullies at school yet, and extended family would find him more cute than weird.
But yeah, if Ford started talking like a 3-4 year old who thought he’d been kidnapped, there’d be no way to argue that he’s okay. They’d have to try to sort through his dense paranormal memories in that pile of canisters, trying to undo the damage.
9. If they did mess up Ford’s mind that badly, Fidds would feel terrible about it and try to fix it. I imagine Stanley would be contacted using Ford’s old mail, and knock some sense into the cultists on his way to revive Stanford’s mind. And the erasure wouldn’t stop Bill from being terrible to Ford, so it would once again prove that Fidds was wrong to erase his mind in no uncertain terms.
10. Even at the height of his cult arc, I doubt Fiddleford would be so full of it/stupid that he erased “the paranormal” from Ford’s mind. They knew each other for years, he should know that it’s something Stanford cherishes, and has ever since he was a child. Which ultimately means there’s a nil chance of Ford getting lobotomies via memory gun, even with Blind Eye Fiddleford on the prowl.
So yeah, TDLR I must not be over that ancient AU where Dipper gets his entire mind wiped and the cult just keeps him like a servant. Kidnapped a 12 year old boy. [Ivan wasn’t that evil bro].
I found your old stancest collection and I was just wondering if there were more fics you'd written? I say another called foreign but that was all I could find :(
No prob, I'm on it
to start this was my old fanfic tag: cheezistyping
there should be a few drabbles in there and also just fics themselves back when posting fics on tumblr was a common thing lol
Also, AO3 links to orphaned fics! I BELIEVE this is all of them, and I'm at least 82% sure they're all fics I wrote. i dare not attempt to read through my decade old writing to find out for sure.
Honeysuckle / We Swear It's the Cold / Those 30 Years / A Collection / Where Credit Is Due / Mabel's Magic Mistletoe / Mullet Thirst 2: Boat Edition / Soft Sensation / Temperature
listed from the first fics i ever wrote in 2015 to the last Gravity Falls fic in 2018 ✌ also Foreign was the only gen fic I think i wrote for Gravity Falls actually haha
Ford would be the type of guy to go “I’m so dark and evil,,,u don’t know what I’ve done,,,,I’m a monster,,,,” and Stan would just smack him upside the head like stfu and drink your coffee
Is this an Epic: The Musical reference. Coz Would You Fall In Love With Me Again is exactly this. And the song itself is SOOO stancest coded don't even get me started.
I think it also plays into Ford's need for narrative relevancy. He was so goddamn sure he's the main character for 30+ years, and then realizes it was Stan all along. Well, what's left for him then? If he's not the hero of the story, then... he must be it's villain. The one who ruined hero's life, the one who needs to be punished for his wrongdoings.
And Stan won't have any of that bullshit lmao he just wants his honeymoon in Arctic Ocean and that's it