This is going to be a long post, sorry! Please read the full post before even thinking about commenting.
Over the past few days I’ve seen a few posts on my dash about taylor swift and her fans that have left a bad taste in my mouth.
I know that a lot of people think that some fans of her are “trying to make her gay” and I just wanted to put the record straight and defend some people after actually looking at what’s going on. And I know I’m probably opening myself up for tumblr’s poor reading comprehension but before I start I’m going to say this:
I do not think taylor swift is a lesbian
Ok? Now let’s have a conversation.
First of all from what I’ve seen most of the fans who talk about Taylor swift and queerness do it from a point of literary analysis and learning queer history. This is a huge part of the community and lots of people have said that they never would have learnt so much about queer history without reading taylor swift’s works through a queer lens.
Adding on to that point, it seems a little hypocritical for the gay site which loves queer readings of books, tv shows, songs, musicals, films etc to be bullying a pretty small group of people who are mainly doing queer readings of lyrics. Especially when those people get near constant death threats. Instead of bullying these people (who don’t think or do what you think they think and do) why don’t you go outside and think “does this affect me? No. Do I agree with them? No. Am I going to cyber bully them because of this? No.”
Secondly, for the people who believe that any speculation on a real persons sexuality is 100% wrong. I used to think this too but I have changed my mind a bit about this recently after stopping and thinking about it properly. I’m not trying to change your mind at all I just want you to stop and think for a minute.
If you only get mad when speculation is queer in nature, then maybe think about that for a minute. Why is it totally wrong to think a person might be queer. We probably do it in our daily lives with people we know and they likely do it with us, back in the day that’s how queer people found each other-by speculating on sexuality. Would you be upset if you found out someone that you know thought you might be queer? I wouldn’t, maybe you would but if you would, why? Why is it terrible to think someone might be queer (this is NOT about hounding a person to admit to being queer like shawn mendes, this is just thinking in your head and on your small blog that the person will likely never see). Also this is literally the website where we talk about historical (real people) being gay even when they would have never said something to the equivalent.
An addition to this point before people start saying in the comments is that this is NOT the same situation as with kit connor. The issue there was people assuming that he was straight and taking that role away from a queer person. Speculating that he was queer was the opposite of what happened in that situation. So this is not an example of what happens when you speculate queerness.
Final things to say:
1) don’t believe every post you see with someone looking insane about taylor swift being gay, a lot of them are fake.
2) before anyone says “they should listen to real queer artists instead” most of them very much do. There’s a lot of fans of Hayley kiyoko, girl in red, Janelle monae, tegan and sara, zolita, kehlani etc.
3) there are some queer flags that are there. Sorry but there are. Hairpin drops, lavender, the ladder, flag colours, songs about women, friend of dorothy reference. Whether they are intentional is a different matter.
4) shipping real people is not what is happening for the majority of the people in the community. Also this comes back to queer vs straight again. Plenty of swifties ship taylor with men she’s been seen with and no one goes into their inboxes and sends death threats even when they are the ones making taylor swift all about the men she may or may not have dated.
5) taylor swift has never stated her sexuality. I know this may be hard to belive based off of how some people act, but it’s true. She has made vague statements which could have many meanings but she has never clearly stated anything. When gaylors get upset with taylor it is not because she said she is straight, it’s because they are getting death threats and doxxed and she seems to either be unaware of it (which is unlikely given how she seems to be a little terminally online) or she doesn’t care enough to tell her fans to stop.
6) if she does explicitly say she’s straight then there will probably be disappointment in her use of queer history and flags and her potential queer erasure (as we saw with lavender haze, with straight women describing their relationships as lavender) and centring herself in queer spaces (like the you need to calm down music video) but no one will be angry that she’s not gay. And a lot will probably be grateful that she actually explicitly stated for the record to absolve any confusion. The main issue would likely be other fans ramping up the death threats and bullying.
In conclusion: these people who do queer analysis of Taylor’s work are not trying to out her or make her gay etc. if you don’t understand it that’s fine it’s clearly not for you and you can go quite easily without seeing any of it. It’s not illegal to read works through a queer lens and if it means more people know about queer history then I think that’s a very good thing.
I changed my mind after looking at what a lot of people are actually saying rather than what people perceive them to be saying and maybe you will too?
Just be kinder to people online please and if you don’t like what people are saying block them and do not engage!
latimesent via Twitter: T-Swift stopped by the Los Angeles Times Studio @RBC House while she was in Toronto promoting "All Too Well" (Photo by Kent Nishimura / Los Angeles Times)
every time taylor smiles during suburban legends 🥹
inexplicably hottest midnights era taylor yet
Taylor Swift attends 65th GRAMMY Awards in Los Angeles, February 05, 2023
The original flag, by Gilbert Baker, June 25, 1978.
Observations since the red “wedding” that make me still believe that Kaylor are still together.
Thank you to everyone in this fandom for there contributions, posts, observations and secret government agency level clue finding skills. (X = links to relevant posts).
Oct 22nd 2018 - Taylors forget me knots flower t-shirt while in OZ..X
Oct 31st 2018 - New Video in Karlie’s Kitchen and she still had the Kaylor photos up.. X
Nov 9th 2018 - Tay sings out of the woods on Tour and Karlie and co post photos in the woods.. X
Nov 16th 2018 - Taylors matching Karlie Clutch at the AMA’s.. X. also kinda matching outfits..X
Jan 15th 2019 - Karlie’s Astrology post with Sagittarius book shown underneath.. X
Feb 25th 2019 - Karlie rocking a Tye Dye t-shirt at Paris Week with Gigi in tow, hello lover merch and also similar to a shirt Tay was seen in also another PR episode themed tye dye (in 2020).. X X X
March 3rd 2019 - Karlie was in Paris for fashion week - Off White walk on 28th Feb then mysteriously posts that she was passing through NY on the 3rd of March before appearing back in Paris for the Stella McCartney show on the 4th March. Where did she mysteriously fly to and why point it out that she was back in America for some unknown reason - plus we know beginning of march is significant for them aka Big Sur or Love locked down…X X X X
March 14th 2019 - Taylor leaving/disappearing early from the Iheart awards the same night Project Runway Premiered..X
March 14th 2019 - Watch what happens live - Karlie getting asked about Taylor - there is a smirk..X
March 14th 2019 - Interesting anon telling Kaylors not to give up.. X
March 31st 2019 - Tay and KK liking the same Ciara post - X
April 2019 maybe??- The i need to make a phone call when filming ME when adopting Benjamin..X
April 16th 2019 - The Lover Butterfly Mural - 2 lady birds, giraffe print, similar previous to karlie VS wings..X X
April 2019 - Berlin video of karlie playing piano with “a interesting” female voice laughing at the end and saying you always.. X X
May 18th 2019 - Tays ‘we’ slip on the Ellen show then saying its just me and the cats.. X X
May 30th 2019 - Karlie using ME! and 2AM in a story.. X X
June 3rd 2019 - Tay wearing a yellow T-shirt with her Wango Tango rainbow outfit.. X
June 6th 2019 - Karlie using a BBF vogue video gif.. X X
June 17th 2019 - THE HAND in the YNTCD teaser video - no one can convince me this isn’t Karlie’s hand.. X X X X X
June 17th 2019 - Lover straw in the YNTCD video similar to Karlie’s bride straw. Also the Mint mojito it’s sitting in linking to Karlie’s 73 Question video where she says Mojitos are a favourite..X X
June 2019 - YNTCD with Taylor carrying out a Daisy from her burning trailer plus Daisies making a number of appearances.. X X X X
June 25th 2019 - KK’s Dad liking certain comments on the Wyoming stunt..X
July 4th 2019 - Abigail liking a KK insta post after the SB drama started.. X
Aug 3rd 2019 - Tay posts Lover Heart crispies pic on KK’s birthday.. X
Aug 16th 2019 - Release date of Lover Track being 13 days after KK’s bday and also track 3 aka KK birthday day also its 3.41 long (3+4+1=8).. X X X
Aug 16th 2019 - Lover lyric video with the kaylor sparklers video plus potential daises and big sur falcon pic.. X X
Aug 22nd 2019 - Lover video fishbowl scene X
Aug 23rd 2019 - Lover release date may coincide with a certain date range where Kaylor may have gotten engaged.. X X
Aug 23rd 2019 - Lover album in general - Cornelia street, Lover, False God etc etc we all know it plus the release letters all over NY..X X
Sept 10th 2019 - Lover Paris Concert Mural ummm a polaroid, locket..X X X
Nov 14th 2019 _ Karlie’s off the wall post during when SB was not letting Tay perform her songs - which i think is her being off the wall angry.. X
Nov 14th 2019 - Selena liking a Hung Vanngo post of Karlie..X
Nov 13th 2019 - Lover remix released on the anniversary of their first meeting VS2013 - “the girl in my story has always been you”..X X X
Nov 21st 2019 - The orange girl In YNTCD along with the Karlie Vogue cover in orange with cactus jewellery.. X X
Nov 25th 2019 - Use of a ballerina for her Lover AMA performance and then karlie also mentioning said ballerina months later in a insta story.. X X
Dec 4th 2019 - Taylor Wearing the VS angel ring on the kiss gate anniversary X X X X X
Dec 6th 2019 - Christmas Tree Farm song lyrics and happiness
Dec 12th 2019 - Taylor posting a pic of her with the huge cats door and then low and behold the following PR episode Karlie walks through a giant door for a Cats promo episode.. X X X X
Jan 2020 - PR episode with Cyndi Lauper aka photo with Taylor at Billboard Women awards and also having Laverne Cox as a guest too..X X
Jan 2nd 2020 - Martha liking KK’s post celebrating her vogue covers which includes the Kaylor one..X
Jan 23rd 2020 - The use of the song Karlie what you want, (karlie would you want to) song in Miss Americana when talking about her partner also the home video.. X X also this X
Feb 6th 2020 - The song release of the Man and KK having a suits themed PR episode..X X X
Feb 12th 2020 - KK’s Daisy coat X
Feb 18th 2020 - The drawn Bethany Richards picture of the rainbow dress Taylor wore to the NFL draft on KK’s Galantines insta story..X
General - Karlie continuously latergraming and the Fiordland spelling mistake incident plus always periods of days where she is MIA aka christmas and coming back looking a bit sun reddened and wearing jumpers, posting dark pictures.. X
OTHER posts to note..X X X X X X X X X
Let me know if i have missed any other obvious big observations.
vanityfair via Instagram: TIFF (Taylor’s Version) 🪩 Grammy award winner and ‘All Too Well’ director #TaylorSwift stopped by V.F.‘s official portrait studio. (Photographed by @sebkimstudio)
it’s nice to have a friend is not about having a different best friend during different stages of your life and is instead a progression of an imaginary friendship into a lifelong partnership, because after the school bell rings, sidewalk chalk is covered in snow and later when the church bells ring after she marries her best friend, the rice on the ground looks like snow, connecting the final verse to the first verse and therefore confirming that the same friend that that taylor passes notes with and sleeps in tents with and plays 20 questions with is the same friend she later on marries and the song sounds lonely and desolate like a still winter morning when the windows are frosted with snow but the chill hasn’t let itself into your bedroom just yet because it speaks to the inherent loneliness of growing up as a girl who falls in love with her best girl friends, but that lonely girl finally marries her best friend and that is why the song sounds lonely like a grey winter morning but at the same time comforting like a friend/love of your life running her fingers through your hair in bed on a grey winter morning, in this essay i will-
TAYLOR SWIFT @ The 65th GRAMMY Awards on February 05, 2023 in Los Angeles, California.
2023
DROP EVERYTHING NOW
MEET ME IN THE POURING RAIN
KISS ME ON THE SIDEWALK
TAKE AWAY THE PAIN
Catch! / new to owning a tumblr / always trying to keep up with Taylor
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