Wild Opinion I Know People Will Hate Me For: I Strongly Dislike Alfred Pennyworth. I Know What You’re

wild opinion i know people will hate me for: i strongly dislike alfred pennyworth. i know what you’re thinking, “how could you hate him! alfred does no wrong!!!”

(loud incorrect buzzer) WRONG. omg, alfred can only do wrong in my mind. he is such a fucking enabler and then he wants to play devils advocate. recently, before starting ‘what the future holds’ i reread robin 1993—specifically tim’s birthday arc.

if you don’t know what that is i’ll tell you. on tim’s sixteenth someone delivers a package which is a holographic message from a future-alfred essentially telling him someone in the batfam is, like, evil, and trusting him to figure it out. eventually it’s revealed that the message was a test, part of bruce’s training, and ‘future’ alfred was actually just current alfred. it was a really good read, i believe it was issues #116-120.

point is, alfred WILLING sided with bruce on that shit. alfred was not held at gun point, his life was not under any threat, he was asked to assist and he. did. that. shit.

and after he had the audacity to be apologetic! ‘i’m so sorry master tim’ like no tf ur not???? like u did this, you allowed him to feel like everything was HIS responsibility and like he couldn’t trust anyone. which is just so fucked up on another level. he watched tim isolate himself and beat himself up over trying to solve this and he?? just?? let?? it?? happen???

and some how he can do no wrong?????

when tim first became robin, who gave him the suit? i’m pretty sure it was alfred. yes, tim was a relentless little kid—but that’s just that. he was a fucking kid, no older than thirteen. alfred gave him the suit. sure, it was to save bruce, but why did it have to be him? why couldn’t he call dick or superman or, hell, go out there himself? why’d it have to be the nosy ass neighbor?

also when bruce and dick used to beat the shit out of each other alfred didn’t do anything. he lowkey just let it happen. like how much is bruce paying bro for him to let that slide?

ALSO ALSO i would love someone to correct me on this, PLEASE tell me i’m wrong, but wasn’t alfred the one who put up the good soldier memorial? everyone hates on bruce (who, in a lot of ways, is a bad father) for that memorial being up but it was alfred. and i get he was but jason wasn’t just robin, he was so much more. and most importantly, he was a son. i know things were rocky for him and bruce but, god, that’s his son! like what the genuine fuck, yk?

and maybe this is only in some iterations but alfred literally influenced bruce to train to be a vigilante. he trained him when he was young, after his parents deaths. and yes, he was another one of those relentless kids, but there were things alfred could’ve tried to stop him from doing this.

what i’m trying to say is, im so fucking tired of this ‘saint alfred’ BS. he’s in the wrong! maybe not all of the time but a lot of the time. and i don’t know if that ‘jason loves alfred the most!’ thing is fanon or canon but either way i hate it. if you’re going to make bruce a bad dad, if you’re making jason and bruce’s relationship rocky, then alfred can’t be the exception. he should be held accountable as much as bruce.

like, if jason loved alfred so much and saw him as a grandfather, why isn’t he pissed at alfred for not killing the joker. sure he wanted bruce to do it but after bruce didn’t, why didn’t alfred take it into his own hands? alfred has no problems with killing people who deserve it. he was a soldier for crying out loud!

if jason and alfred are as close as fanon claims then jason should be beefing with alfred as much as he does with bruce for not avenging him.

okay, this turned into a rant about jason and alfred’s annoying fanon relationship but you get my point.

i don’t hate alfred, i hate fanon alfred and i hate this fandom and how they love to hold bruce accountable for wrongs that lowkey could be alfred’s fault too. and i also hate that’s it’s so hard to dislike alfred because people will yell at you for it. in my fics i try to keep him as out of it as i can because god forbid i make him how he is in the comics.

alfred is a flawed character—just like bruce and jason and tim and dick and damian and duke—and that’s okay! it’s better when they’re not so one dimensional, it makes them way more interesting as a character and also allows fanon to create perfect character development over the span of long ass fics that i love to binge.

thank you for coming to my ted talk.

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1 year ago
Ganbare, SATORU!

ganbare, SATORU!

5 months ago

i’m answering this for my Batman DR :D

1. void state/method? it’s the easiest for me

2. because i actually live in Wayne Manor/Estate I get to see plenty of people. because mainly excited to meet dick, damian, and duke along with cassandra. outside the estate though, zatanna, starfire, superman and raven. they were literally my idols growing up and i just know that i would absolutely panic internally and faint

3. favorite thing scripted is me somehow stumbling into meeting the Addams family (yes they’re in Gotham) and the wayne/bat kids? have to take care of a young bruce wayne, selina kyle and alfred pennysworth (in my dr bruce and selina are married)

4. i’m actually excited to visit metropolis. it’s the brother city to Gotham (correct me if i’m wrong) and i really want to go see the daily planet

5. i don’t have a s/o

6. like him - tyler, the creator, options - doja cat, my ordinary life - the living tombstone, starboy - the weeknd, ghost in the machine - sza

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7. i’m currently obsessed with anatomy practices and how to use color theory

8. to live freely away from my bio family

9. i have none at the moment 😅

10. drawing and baking :D

11. super rich kids - frank ocean and balloons - tyler, the creator & doechii

12. everything everywhere all at once, saltburn and the kung fu panda movies

I'm bored, so here's a little ask game <3

This has both shifting related questions and non-shifting related questions

shifting questions:

what is your current shifting method?

who are you most exited to meet in *insert dr*?

favourite thing you scripted?

what place are you most exited to visit in *insert dr*?

who is/are your S/O(s)?

what is a song that reminds you of your dr?

Non-shifting questions:

7. current thing your obsessed with?

8. what is your ultimate goal in life (other than shifting)?

9. current book you're reading?

10. current fav hobby?

11. fav song?

12. fav movie?


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1 year ago

I just finished the first season of Dungeon Meshi. I’m making a script for it IMMEDIATELY. That and Frieren as well!


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1 year ago

"I'm complex person who intends to find people that I can fuck with and understand me even if I have to go to a different reality. "

Now if I put this in a dating profile do you think people would hit my line?

8 months ago
Look How I Messed Up These Snickerdoodle Cookies

look how i messed up these snickerdoodle cookies


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1 year ago

renaissance in the 21st century

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1 year ago

dealing with the worst case scenario

your condom breaks

you feel a lump on your breast

your friends are ignoring you

you’re stranded on an island 

you got rejected by a crush

you get into a car accident

you got stung by a bee/wasp

you got fired from your job

you’re in an earthquake

your tattoo gets infected

your house is on fire

you’re lost in the woods

you get arrested abroad

you get robbed

your partner cheated on you

you’re on a ship that’s sinking

you fall into ice

you’re stuck in an elevator

you hit a deer with your car

you have food poisoning

your pet passed away

you fall off of a horse

you or your friend has alcohol poisoning

you have toxic shock syndrome

your house has a gas leak

5 months ago

about my better cr...

About My Better Cr...
About My Better Cr...
About My Better Cr...
About My Better Cr...

Intro:

Name: Ngozi Sabrina

Age - 18

More info:

In my better cr, I got an internship at what is now my future job/life career when I was 16. it was a very well-paid internship. after a year of working, I was able to save enough money to get a down payment on my house (second photo) and move out of my mom's house when I was 17. I also graduated at 17 and was offered my current position in my workplace and I took it. ever since then I have been healing my childhood wounds and living a life with people who love me

About My Better Cr...

My better cr...

There's a lot that I changed about my cr, the usual no sexism, no racism, the orange man croaked etc. but these are my personal favorites that I added:

america has a wonderful train and bus system that connects even the most rural of areas

good transportation in general

mental health is treated as real as physical health

women's health/safety is not only is not just a right but an international agreement among all nations and is enforced heavily

public healthcare for all

children are seen as living, autonomous beings and have freedoms and rights as such

any and all abuse is taken seriously no matter what

free education for all

public housing for those in need no one deserves to be homeless

About My Better Cr...

what i'm excited for...

There's honestly a lot of things that i'm excited for. i'm mainly excited about my house. It's basically my dream house with an office, a living room with a fireplace, a kitchen with an island, and a backyard that has flower bushes, berry bushes, and apple trees and if you go past my backyard you'll be in a beautiful forest with remnants of moss architecture older residents left behind such as, a well, a statue lady pouring water, a swing just to name a few. it's a cozy property, my forever home. there's also nooks and hidden spots built into my house as well which make everything more fun

About My Better Cr...
About My Better Cr...

I also have two cats. Nyx and Frigga. they're my halloween cats and i love them so much

About My Better Cr...
About My Better Cr...

Nyx is my black cat and is the younger one whilst Frigga is my ginger who is older. I adopted them when i found them on my property. they were a year old and not chipped/claimed so they became my lovely companions. other than this reality, there is no reality where me and my girls aren't with each other. they're my soulcats (soulmate+cats???) and they are with me no matter what. I'm truly excited to hug them tightly. they're my babies.

About My Better Cr...

Anyways, that's my basic introduction to my better cr. it's also worth to note that my better cr is my permanent reality. like once i go back there im forgetting this reality. but if i hope this is enough of a general background to my home life.

About My Better Cr...

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how to grow the fuck up

7 months ago

Happy birthday!!

awww thank you 😊

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