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Gonna be usefull for Future fic powerscaling and backstory

About the Dragon Balls: is there anything lost in translation when it's said that they can't do anything beyond the power of the creator? Because taken as written, that...has some implications about Kami's abilities. I'm guessing if that is what it says in the original Japanese, it's meant in more of a general sense of power - the same way you could say a bunch of food has equivalent chemical energy to a bomb exploding. That's kind of the only way that statement makes sense in anything past Kami's introduction I think, but do you think it was originally intended as that, or was Toriyama's original concept that Kami could do anything the Dragon Balls do, e.g. resurrect people (or did Toriyama just not think that hard about it - also very possible!)

As a bonus mostly irrelevant side note, in trying to make that statement work, me and my friend came up with the idea that the Dragon Balls are ki-to-magic converters - so they are connected to Kami's level of power (in ki), but they convert it into the equivalent level of magical power.

So far as I know, there are a few interesting limitations on what the Dragon Balls are capable of so far as the wishes they can grant.

The "can't grant wishes beyond God's power" rule was established here, when Oolong wanted to use Shenron to kill Vegeta and Nappa.

This is an accurate translation of the original. While it's very hard to find the manga in original Japanese, the anime is another story - and I can confirm that this is what he's saying in Japanese in the anime. "That would be impossible. I was born from God; Therefore, I cannot do something that would exceed the power of God."

When Shenron says this, he's talking about Vegeta and Nappa's ki. Shenron's power is pegged to God's power, but Vegeta and Nappa have a stronger ki than he does. In fact, their ki is so great that even Kaio is dwarfed by them.

Elite Saiyans are so strong that even gods are humbled by their might. This grants them an ability that, up to this point, had never been discussed: They can resist wishes targeted at them.

This has never really come up before. First because God was only recently introduced to the cast and, prior to Piccolo, there were no characters on his level. And second, because targeting a hostile wish at someone has never happened before.

Not for lack of trying. The Muten-Roshi's plan in the Piccolo-Daimao arc was to get Shenron to kill Piccolo.

But that went about as badly as conceivably possible.

Yeah, this literally cannot have gone any worse. That is a hard fail in every possible way.

Could Shenron have ganked Piccolo before the wish to restore his youth was made? We'll never really know. It's entirely possible that the Muten-Roshi would have gotten the "beyond my power" speech then if he'd managed to succeed.

But he didn't, and so "What if Shenron just fucking killed this guy?" wouldn't get brought up until the arrival of the Saiyans.

Essentially, the main function that rule serves within the story is just that: To explain why Shenron cannot be used to just erase the new bad guy from the plot and be done with them. As the powers grow, they leave God and by extension Shenron far behind them, and so it becomes possible for characters to resist wishes targeted at them - as seen here.

Though a wish is made to return Goku to Earth, it cannot be granted because Goku resisted it. Goku's ki so far surpasses that of Muri it's not even funny, and so Porunga may only grant a wish targeting Goku if he has Goku's consent.

So far as the range of wishes that can be cast... it's not entirely clear what controls that. Dende upgraded the Dragon Balls when he arrived on Earth, increasing the number of permitted wishes to three.

Note: He means here "Two wishes if you use one of them for a multi-rez", not "We'll only get two wishes out of any usage if we want Shenron to be capable of multi-rez." Common misconception.

In upgrading the dragon, we see that some of Shenron's limitations are configured at the factory, so to speak. We have to decide what we want the new Shenron's abilities to be while we're forging him.

Though it does seem that these things can be reconfigured after the design is in place. At some point after leaving Earth, Muri reconfigured Porunga to allow multi-rez.

So Shenron is limited by God's power in terms of targeting wishes, and also by how his settings are configured.

There is a subtle implication that Dende's dragon can do three wishes because Dende has a stronger ki than the previous God's. There is, to my knowledge, no official statement one way or the other. But it is possible.

Saichoro described the Nameless Namekian as a prodigy of the Ryuzoku Namekians.

Saichoro legit doesn't believe anything short of a Super Saiyan could have bested the Nameless Namekian. Though he may be overselling NN's capabilities out of racial pride.

But in the same breath, he also notes that God is a greatly diminished shadow of what the Nameless Namekian would be capable of.

So the original Shenron was created by a Ryuzoku prodigy cut down to size.

By contrast, Dende is never described as a prodigy. Krillin confirms that his ki is itty-bitty as would be expected of a child his age.

Dende's not throwing hands with Super Saiyans any time soon.

...however.

Meager though Dende may be, he did have his dormant ki drawn out of him by Saichoro.

To give a sense of scope for what that means, keep in mind that Namekian warriors have a Battle Power reading of 3,000... but Nail is 42,000. This same process took Krillin from around 1,500 to 75,000. Having all of your dormant ki awakened is a skyrocketing effect.

So between the prodigy child of Katatz greatly diminished and the mundane Dende with a colossal buff, it is entirely possible that Dende's dragon can grant more wishes because his ki kicks his predecessor's ass.

But it could just as easily have been a personal choice by the former God.

He may have deliberately set Shenron's settings to 1 wish because he didn't want the Dragon Ball quest to be too rewarding. He didn't want earthlings to lean too heavily on miracles to solve their problems. He was pretty hands-off as a deity.

Lastly, with regard to what God himself is capable of and whether he can do the same things Shenron can.... God confirms that Shenron is capable of greater feats of reality warping than he himself is.

Wish Dragons are unique for their ability to unkill people. That is not a power that even gods possess. In fact, even climbing into the upper echelons of the divine hierarchy, the only comparable ability we've ever seen comes from the Kaioshin, highest of gods (pre-Super).

...and it can only be performed by trading a Kaioshin's life for one mortal's.

Gods cannot revive the dead. Only Shenron can.

hello ive made many diagrams by now but you can have Yet Another One. appy pride monf 🫶🏳️‍🌈 (also i mayve put some of the more intersecting ones in the wrong places oops but just pretend theyre in the right place 👍)

My favorite relationship dynamic in fiction is a worshipper and their God. Not a literal God, but their God. The only thing in the whole world that matters to them. I will live for you, I would die for you, I would kill for you. My only moral compass is You. You can do no wrong in my eyes and I will never stray from your side. I was born to meet you and to love you. You are the only being I pray to. Your life isn’t just my passion, it’s my religion. You don’t think you’re anything special but you don’t see what I see. You don’t see that you’re the only person who’s ever made me feel this way. You don’t understand how beautiful you are to me and I will devote my entire life to making you understand and accept it.

[Slaps roof of Senticousins]

These bad boys can fit so many trope subversions in them

I’ve been thinking about the deities I created for the Zelda universe a little too much and now I’m…. In too deep

So first of all, Labrynna and Holodrum seems to house the oracles Nayru and Din, so I called them the lands of Wisdom and Power respectfully. The golden goddesses are the highest of goddesses since they created the world, and so the oracles travel the lands, with the deities watching over.

Ok so buckle up cuz I’m gonna super ramble here

Nayru, Din, and Farore both created the world, and left behind the Triforce. They are extremely powerful, but a mysterious force that devoured everything, Null began to cause issues for them. Needing to protect the Triforce which could protect or destroy the world they created, they asked their youngest sister Hylia to protect it, which is why the Triforce and the hero is housed in the land of Hyrule (Hylia summoned a hero to help protect the land from danger). Hylians are the most like the goddesses and long ears and blonde hair are considered highly attractive

Anyways, while Hylia was tasked in protecting the Triforce, the other younger sister, Loria, was tasked in containing Null, since Lorule sorta reminds me of the rifts in eow (tho I should really play ALBW. The vibes are there tho).

Loria ended up losing her life and used the rest of her power to create the little tris to seal the rifts, and this is because of Demise, a demon that appeared and desired the power of the Triforce. Where he came from is unknown, but he entered the land of the Triforce to steal it, and the war happened and Hylia gave up her mortality to stop Demise and protect the triforce. Rip the queens.

Then the rest of the gods appeared, who were not related to the golden three and used to be mortal.

Labryn was a human who saw his family fall apart after one of his brothers killed the other (kind of like Cain and Abel). He is the war god, but he actually hates war and does not want anyone to raise their weapons against their own with no justification, since he saw what it can do. He’s more like Athena than anything, not so much Ares. During the early years of Hyrule, the interloper war began, and the Triforce was once again threatened. With the main protector gone, the goddesses asked Labryn to create light spirits to banish the interlopers, whom he carved out of wood, thus creating the light spirits of Hyrule. They live in the land of Hyrule since that’s where the Triforce is housed. Afterwards, Labryn meets and falls madly in love with a simple noble woman, a mortal, and he gets married to her and they have children. These children are eventually crowned as rulers of Labrynna. Eventually, a war takes place and many innocent leaves to new land south of Hyrule and create Ordon, whom Labryn sends the last light spirit he created, Ordona, to watch over. Ordona is like his pet and he adores her. Ordona protected Ordon so well that Hyrule didn’t even know about their new neighbors until after the execution of Ganondorf. Now Labryn spends his time alone since his wife was a simple mortal and unfortunately passed, and he tries to make sure his descendants rule righteously, tho interacting with the mortals is heavily advised against, so there’s only so much he can do.

Hollow and Drum used to be Gerudo sisters who believe in entertainment and fun. There’s only so much you can do without allowing yourself some pleasantries. I wish I could say I have more on them but I do not :( but that’s some important info! They don’t speak, but they communicate through their dancing. Their vibes is kinda like Yaelokre if y’all know that, idk why. Just masked, childlike beings that sing and dance (tho they don’t actually sing lol)

Then Ram. There is no canon land of courage, and I don’t think Hyrule is that land because of the balance of the three Triforce pieces, so I went ahead and created a new land myself. Totally original and not from any game lol. Ram is the god of agriculture and honestly anything like that. He definitely intermingles with the people of his land and has had several children with several women. The people there look like Hylians but are not, with more long and roundish ears compared to the delicate, pointy ears of Hylians. They also can live for a very long time, unless they leave the presence of Ram. They live completely separate from others and do their own thing, living off the land and sticking close to Ram. Ram was originally a Zonai, and everyone in his land knows him personally. They’re extremely strict and overly zealous, and do not like outsiders

Then Oshus, who was originally a leviathan. I love him sm, and he protects the entirety of the ocean, which has its own issues like with Bellum and stuff. I’m just gonna say that Bellum took his wings hence why he has none. Not much to say, just think of phantom hourglass.

Now, it’s important to note that these deities became deities around the time Hylia fought Demise, but there was one that suddenly vanished. One that resembles the goddesses with his longer ears, Link, who was turned into the Fierce Deity. Except he didn’t join his fellow deities after they reached godhood, instead he was sent to the mysterious and abandoned world of Termina. Since he returned to Hyrule, the deities have grown uncomfortable with his sudden presence.

Some stuff: Hyrule has the hero and priestess, Labrynna has the oracle Nayru, Holodrum has the oracle Din, Ramenia has the oracle Farore, and the ocean has the three fairy spirits Ciela, Neri, and Leaf!

And yeah! Hytopia worships Hylia, they’re just kinda there tho vibin. Yeah too much worldbuilding but… I love that about Zelda. I can just take the patterns of the lore and do my own thing with them. Hope you guys like the lore :))) and I hope it makes sense! If you have any questions, let me know! I’m also bending canon just a smidge here but it’s still fun! I try to be somewhat accurate to the important stuff!

I never noticed this.

Amazing character analisys,

More people need to see It.

When talking about the distinction between Simon Petrikov and the Ice King,  it’s important to remember that originally, the Crown wasn’t trying to turn Simon into Ice King -

It was trying to turn him into this guy.

At the time, the Ice Crown - or rather the Wishing Crown - was programmed with Gunther’s wish to become Evergreen. So everything related to making the current wearer like Evergreen is a very direct result of the Crown’s Magic. The physical changes -

And the obsession with the name ‘Gunther’ -

And maybe some of the irritability and anger issues -

That is something the Crown is very directly forcing unto its current wielder. 

But everything else?

Ice King, personality-wise, was not much like Evergreen at all, or even like Gunther's view of him. And Ice Finn of the Farmworld Universe was also pretty different from the both of them.

At the time, I remember people assumed Ice Finn’s behavior is more indicative of what the Crown is actually trying to do with its wielders. That Ice King is so different because of Simon’s subconscious resistance against the Crown - while Finn’s much younger and dumber brain is a lot susceptible to the Curse’s influence to become some sort of mad world-conquering emperor of ice and snow. 

But, with the context of the Crown’s actual backstory. That doesn’t seem very likely anymore. I think what’s actually happening there is that the Crown is just trying to make its wielder an Ice Wizard on par with Evergreen (who was the Actual Goddam Ice Elemental) and that means pumping the wielder’s brain so full of Magic, Madness and Sadness to a level that is bound to overwhelm anyone.

And Simon’s and Farmworld Finn’s very different behaviors after putting on the crown is indicative, more than anything, of how their psyche reacts to Madness and Sadness in general. You know, Finn has a very proactive and kinda aggressive personality - and you add Crown-induced-Madness-and-Sadness and a compulsion to use Ice Magic as much as possible and you get all of…. this 

Meanwhile, for Simon, the compulsions of the Crown originally filtered exclusively via the language of protection 

As his madness always manifested as romantic obsession 

And using goofy humor to try and deny the pain he’s going through 

Because that’s how Simon’s mind specifically reacts to being flooded with so much Madness and Sadness.

That’s why there’s so many parallels between Ice King and the sort of mistakes and screwed-up stuff Simon does right now! He’s even kidnapping people again!

Because the Madness and Sadness of Ice King might’ve been induced by the Crown, but now Simon has plenty of personal home-grown Madness and Sadness inside him - and it’s no surprise that Curse-Induced or not, his mind reacts to it in a sorta-similar way. (Although obviously not as intensely, again, there was a LOT of MMS in the Ice Crown).

Now as for Ice Thing, and the fact that he seems to be actually rather well-adjusted under effects of his version of the Wishing Crown. I mean... not by the time of the 1000+ Era, but that’s literally eons in the future and also maybe more Gibbon’s fault. Even if the Crown will eventually take some sort of toll on him, for now he seems to be doing pretty well considering his wish. I mean, there's still some sort of Loss of Identity stuff going on

But everything we've seen of Ice Thing (in the present day, at least) shows him as a friendly and cheerful individual that gets along well with others. A far cry from how maladjusted every single wielder of the Ice Crown acted.

At the very least, if there's any notable amount of Sadness in him, we really haven't seen it yet.

There might be several factors here:

First things first, I should acknowledge the possibility that it’s just that Orgalorg’s eldritch brain is better at intaking all that MMS juice. That could play a part, but I think it’s probably more important, at least thematically, to look at the distinction between ‘I wish to be Evergreen’ and ‘I wish to be Ice King’. 

First in the sense that while Ice King was occasionally mean to Gunter at times - he was generally much kinder than Evergreen ever was for ‘his’ Gunther. So, like, pretty much the one Personality Flaw of Ice King that you can directly link to the Ice Crown’s attempt to mimic Evergreen is the occasional anger issues.

And how they relate to Gunther’s view of Evergreen, so grumpy and controlling and constantly saying ‘NO!’

(Both Finn and Simon’s demonstrable not-crown-induced trauma responses can make them pretty short-tempered as well. So I’m not going to say this is purely the effects of the Crown. It still probably plays some sort of factor at why the wielder of the Ice Crown is Like That).

And that is not a factor in how Gunter views Ice King. For him, Ice King was a doting and loving father figure - so if the Crown was ever trying to implement any sort of specific negative personality traits, this is absolutely no longer a factor. Because the original Ice Crown was a reflection of Evergreen’s abuse, and now Ice Thing is a reflection of Ice King’s fatherly love.

Which is, itself, probably an echo or remnant of Simon’s own strong parental instincts. 

Secondly, while the Crown was trying to make the Ice King just as powerful as Evergreen…. Ice King was obviously not as powerful as Evergreen. Because he was already a second-rate copy of the Ice Elemental’s power, and because Ice King was often just too doofy to use his powers correctly and probably because some remnant of Simon’s original sensible self is subconsciously holding his powers back.

Either way, being ‘like Ice King’ as Gunter sees him requires less Magic than being ‘like Evergreen’ as Gunther saw him - and therefore less Madness and Sadness. Leading to the wearer or, um, the eater being a lot more well-adjusted from the get-go.

And I think that the implication that Ice Thing has fused with the Crown, so there's never going to be another poor sap who puts on the Crown and gets Ice King'd. But if there is one somehow... at least the process is going to be less mentally detrimental that time around?

Maybe one day Simon could look back and appreciate how much he (or Ice King, or both of them, or however you want to look at the situation) is responsible for basically neutralizing the Crown that ruined his life in the first place.

I made a doc of every gravity falls au I could remember, here’s the link if you want to add any or if you know who made one of the au’s I didn’t know who made. gravity falls aus are my hyperfixation.

Google Docs

Gravity falls aus

List of gravity falls aus Handyman bill au @handymanbill on tumblr Euclydia rises @orxinus on tumblr Non euclidean geometry au @the-barefoo

oh no

Oh God

He has aligned with the Z-Axis!

HE HAS ENTERED THE THIRD DIMENSION

I had an Idea for an undertale Au which i dont think anyone made yet("think" because there are soo Many i am actually NOT Sure)

The name would be "Anomaly Completion"

The Idea of the Au came to me when i realized even tough frisk is truly a separate character from us,unlike Kris from deltarune who has a backstory of theyre own before we come into play,frisk has NO backstory at ALL

That made me think of the Idea of frisk NOT EXISTING before the events of the game,quite literally the moment we start the Run being the moment they are born

Then after brainstorming a little about How such Idea would interfer with the plot o realized Nothing would changed much,NOT even after the true pacifist ending because the choice to stay with toriel would lead to no conflicts with frisk real parents or Any human civilian because frisk has no connection to those

Then i realized,what If i play the reverse,frisk NOT Only Dint exist before they fall but also they cease to exist after they leave the underground,Thats why neutral runs we get ZERO Idea of what is going on with frisk...

It then hit me,It Gave me a reason for a genocide Run frisk WHITOUT the need of a player interfering or even EXISTING at all in the story

Frisk starts the genocide Run because they need more Power to keep EXISTING,and the easiest and most effective Way to obtain Said Power is a genocide run

I then realized... Wait,WHY would frisk NOT exist before theyre Fall and THEN come into existance out of nowhere and THEN suddenly cease to be From existance once they leave the undeground

I decided then to change the plot reatroactively now... My mind pierced together the clues and made an idea

Gaster,the delta rune Angel's prophecy,the implications the Power of LOVE can make a non corporeal entity more "real" from The end of genocide,the previous fallen children mistérious reasons for why would they come to Mont ebott and the world being sentient implications from The genocide Run(mostly undyne speech and background noise during It from "but the earth refused to die")

And then came the plot

The deltarune was created by gaster long in the past(because he was shattered across space-time the fact he affected something from before his own birth is kinda completely possible),the deltarune Tells the tale of an angel who Falls from The Surface to inevitably free the underground.

The world is sentient,but acts more like a computer kinda of sentient than anything Else,It receive input X then It give output Y,aways,NO exception,gaster abuses that to make the world FORCIBLY try Its best to make the prophecy inevitably comes true,not matter what

It changes things,a Flip or a coin there, gust off Wind here,a bird decides to pick the worm on the left instead of the rigth and soo on,until a giant domino effect brings chara to MT ebbot,the barrier is too powerfull and the world cannot change things inside It in the same Way It does outside of It(undyne's DT allowing It for a brief moment as the exception)

Because the world cant mess with fate inside,It cant stop chara's plan,and the Power of a Monster with a human soul is too big for It to be affected too(they ARE powerfull enough to Cross the barrier,thus more powerfull than It)

Because chara died the prophecy cant come true thus the world has to bring another child into the underground again,thus the reason why they come,but they are killed by asgore,thus the prophecy is Still incomplete

After enough disapearences on MT ebbot,the humans decide to Just straigth UP board UP the entrance to the underground and put a few more barris(not Magic ones) around the area

The world can no longer manipulate fate to being humans there because what It could do had to Still bê in line with what was possible,since entrance to the underground was now COMPLETELY sealed then It was no longer possible and thus the world has to take even more Drastic measures to Follow gaster's prophecy disguised command

It then created a entity,a blob of magical energy not that diferent from a amalgamate Monster,It Falls on top of chara's grave and thus take a form awfully similar to them due to it

Thus

Frisk's existance start,now with the purpose of the deltarune's angel ingraved into theyre Very soul

And the Run can finally start