Penelope’s Relationship Advice

Kinda went hard for two characters who I don't think made any sort of eye contact ever lol

Honestly speaking, rewriting a story as janked up as Thieves In Time is anything but easy.

For those of you who have liked my little behind the scenes blog, thank you. I really hope I can do these characters justice, because Sanzaru sure didn't.

heimkoheimkofan replied to your post “would anyone be interested if i fixed sly thieves in time or”

Go ahead and tell your ideas, i’m honestly curious.

BUCKLE UP IT’S GONNA BE LONG 

and premise: i’m still using the time travel plot, because i DO have an original story for sly but i legit just want to fix thieves in time, not make a completely different story

to fix it properly the series should’ve ended with sly 3, but lets pretend we can go on

also important: while i’m referring at the main bad guy as le paradox, the main bad guy ISN’T the le paradox of TiT. he’s a stupid character with a stupid name and an even more stupid motivation to be the bad guy, i’m simply using his name as nameclaim for lack of other names.

VARIOUS CHANGES:

the gang doesn’t travel in time because le paradox is specifically attacking the clan; le paradox is stealing stuff that eventually would end up in the cooper vault without even knowing it, and coincidentally deleting SOME parts of the thievious racconus. le paradox themself isn’t even aware the cooper gang is fighting their team off until the medieval england level and isn’t doing anything about them for the time being

no sly doesn’t “misses thieving uwu”, he gets back in the gang because of the whole “hey the pages are missing”  and “penelope disappeared”. carmelita catches him and instead of being sassy and being like “woopsies lol” ofc he’s sarcastic at first but immediatly realizes he fucked up.

carmelita herself is part of the gang from japan, but she actually acts like part of the gang just at the very end of the level, where she actually talks it out with sly. their situation is still a little worrisome at the beginning, but first of all we don’t have carmelita getting kidnapped (NEVER.) nor her threatening him over and over. they very slowly understand to find a way to get over the whole “yea i was faking amnesia” thing

the time machine works differently. you gotta write the very precise date and place to travel!!! questions “shouldn’t we go back when neyla paralyzed bentley then?” or “shouldn’t we directly stop clockwerk then?” happen over and over and they’re quite the big plot point. they’re doing what’s right, not what’s good for them.

sly doesn’t go around saying he’s one of the cooper, once again because of time paradox stuff, but tries to find excuses about being a big fan or something like that. the ancestors don’t know he’s a cooper but his name becomes important for them (other than for slytunkhamen ofc) and is a name used a lot after that time

…also im gonna say it murray’s gay and has a crush for someone they meet during their travels. that’s it. it’s canon now no longer a shitty joke

LEVELS ANCESTORS AND BOSSES:

feudal japan, still w rioichi except that he didn’t invent sushi because it’s stupid and he isn’t a stereotype. el jefe can stay

the wild west is the only good level except for the whole “carmelita gets kidnapped” level and of course her stupid ass flirting with tennessee. everything else is perfect. tennessee is perfect. toothpick is perfect. i really like this level and it’s exactly the same except for that one level and the finale of course

in a better world bob nor grizz exist. the third level is the caribbean during the 1800, and the ancestor is henriette “one eye” cooper because i love her big time. the gang makes lot of jokes about “oh my god we’re with pirates again” and she’s the only one of the ancestors who lowkey flirts with carmelita. dimitri is having the time of his life and throws parties on the ship. idk who the bad guy is so don’t ask :(

ill talk about the medieval england and the black knight later but know that ¾ of it is good and will stay. from penelope’s backstab onwards however it changes a LOT.

arabia can stay but it’s during the 40 thieves golden era, making salim a Big Boss  instead of whatever the hell that was. no bellydance minigame. mrs decibel is a victim of circumstances and eventually helps the gang. i need to change her a lil but ill think about it

instead of paris, the final level would be ancient egypt. again i’m gonna talk about it later :3c

VERY BIG CHANGES I’M GONNA PUT UNDER READ MORE BECAUSE IT’S LONG AND I’M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE WHOLE PENELOPE BULLSHIT AND THE BIG TWIST IN EGYPT HELL YEAH

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Dialogue Prompts for Self-Doubt

"I don’t know why I even bother. I try so hard, and it’s still not good enough."

"What if I’m just not meant to do this? Like… maybe I’m not the right person for it."

"I keep letting people down, and I’m starting to think that’s all I’m good at."

"You ever feel like no matter what you do, it’s never enough? Like you’re stuck in this endless loop of failing?"

"I’m so scared of messing up again. I can’t handle another failure."

"I feel like a total imposter, like any second, people are going to realize I don’t belong here."

"Why would anyone choose me? I mean, there are so many better people out there."

"No matter how hard I try, I never seem to get it right. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong."

"Sometimes I wonder if I’m even worth all the effort. Like, what if I’m not?"

"I don’t think I can keep going. This is too much, and I’m not strong enough for it anymore."

Bentley facing Jean Bison in Sly 2: (nervously trying to avoid confrontation) sorry i wasn’t trying to escape, i just dropped my glasses,  pleasedon’tkillme

Bentley facing Muggshot in Sly 3: YOU’RE A SEWAGE-EATING MEATHEAD AND YOUR MOTHER WAS A TUB OF JUNK!  FIGHT ME! YOU COWARD!!!!!!

Bentley = sniping & typing

Murray = punching & munching

Carmelita = tailing & jailing

Sly = thieving………………………. & grieving. :(

Sanzaru looked at the silly one-off joke in Sly 3 where Penelope badly photoshops herself into a sexy femme fatale, and were like….‘what if we did that but For Real’

Sly 4 was a fever dream and didn’t happen.

bouncing penelopes because………………. penelope

I can't provide many estimates on how much of Episode 0 (Chapters 1-6) I've got left to finish. I do, however, have most of the dialogue written. Though most of it comes straight from the vanilla game.

Most of the new dialogue, of course, has to do with Penelope now joining the boys for the adventure. And most of that dialogue comes from Chapters 3 (Bentley's segment) and 4 (Penelope's segment).

The main challenge, as you might guess, lies in writing up Chapter 4. Should be fun.