I forgot one of the best ones . . .
My sister after I tell her about people blaming Mabel: "I can see why, but she's also a twelve year old. She made a very reasonable decision for a twelve year old."
Watching Gravity Falls with siblings is great.
"I didn't think it was possible to be a worse guardian than Stan, but at least he has some idea of child endangerment." - my sister when Ford brought Dipper to the alien ship.
"That's not up to him, that's up to his parents." - my sister on Ford's apprenticeship offer.
"Is she about to get Bill'd?" - my brother when Mabel is in the forest.
"This show took a turn." - my sister in the episode thats name is like Xqthfqx or something.
"It takes a special kind of brain to come up with this." - my brother on the same episode as the previous quote.
RIP Lucas. You would've loved cat cafes
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It's white and gold.
In February 2015, the "The Dress" debate had everyone weighing in on what color it was.
Hey, do you have a discord?
I do, but I'm not comfortable sharing
This is going to be a long post, but I don't know how to do the "read more" thing, sorry.
Bear with me for a minute. So I realized recently that I don't actually see that much Mabel or Ford hate, it's mostly stuff I hear from other people. (What I see is generally more subtle, like I read a fic that was good, but Ford took responsibility for Filbrick kicking Stan out. What was he supposed to do? He's 17 too! I also saw someone say the apocalypse wasn't Mabel's fault, it was Ford's. I'd just like to say that it was Bill's fault and Ford was manipulated into building that portal.)
But I do see a lot of Billford. It keeps on showing up in my suggested communities and the "For You" thing, despite The Book Of Bill portraying it as a very manipulative, horrifically abusive relationship. (When I say relationship, I don't necessarily mean romantic. It could have been a completely platonic horrifically abusive relationship.) And I have to wonder if, because Bill is a triangle, we let him get away with things we wouldn't if he were a human and/or doing these things directly to Ford.
Say that there was a movie. In it, there are two human men. Their relationship is clearly built on manipulation, and when the manipulated realizes that he's being manipulated, he tries to leave. The manipulator proceeds to torture him. You see this onscreen and it's horrible. The manipulator drives a nail through this guy's hand, shoves spiders down his throat, humiliates him . . .
Would people ship these two characters? This is the main fandom I'm in, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say probably not. (I'd like to say that I don't have a problem with people who write them as together . . . as long as it's portrayed as the abusive relationship it actually WAS and not a good relationship.)
All of those were actual things that happened in The Book of Bill. I didn't even mention the psychological torture (He makes Ford forget his OWN NAME) and forced sleep deprivation.
But Bill is a triangle. Bill isn't doing these things directly to Ford. He's doing them while in Ford's body, which is arguably possibly more horrific than if Bill was a separate person doing these things to him, but it's not something that could happen in real life.
But in this analysis of Ford: https://archiveofourown.org/works/58698496/chapters/158032750 when speaking of the torture Ford endured during Weirdmageddon, Callipraxia mentions that the fact that people can't electrocute others "takes at least some of the realism and therefore some of the horror out of the situation." (I apologize if this quote is incorrect, I couldn't find the part where she says this in this quite long work.)
And that makes me wonder if, again because Bill is a triangle and the things he does are literally impossible, it makes people less inclined to see his relationship with Ford as abusive when I have read two separate analyses (one of them is the one referred to above) that straight up say "This reads like a domestic abuse situation." One of them (the one NOT linked above, I'll look for it later) says that Bill hits every. Single. Criteria. For an abuser.
Even before Ford learned what Bill was really there to do, their relationship wasn't good. Bill doesn't show up for months and when Ford asks him where he's been, Bill responds by basically gaslighting him and making him doubt McGucket.
And there's one more thing I noticed. I wasn't in the GF fandom when the show was airing, but I'm pretty sure Billdip didn't become a popular ship until after Sock Puppet Opera, much the same as Billford wasn't so popular until TBOB. It's a pattern of "Bill abuses someone, then gets shipped with that someone." It's quite disturbing.
I know people are going to ship what they're going to ship, but Bill x Pines family members really shouldn't be so popular imo.
Tl;dr: If Bill were a human and you saw him torturing Ford, would you still ship them?
I'm pretty sure I forgot some of what I was going to say, so I might edit this later or reblog it with the extra information.
I do want to say that I do NOT support being rude, sending hate comments or death threats to people who do ship this. Don't do that. Just wanted to say, just in case.
I also want to say that though I put "anti Billford" and "anti Billdip" in the tags, I'm pretty sure I'm not an anti, though I haven't been able to fully figure out what the term means.
Another addendum: I am NOT qualified to be talking about abuse.
This is just a theory.
Hey, I do the "grammar, Stanley" to my brother all the time! I was kinda disappointed when he didn't go "IT'S YOU" when we reached that part of the show ngl
Dear Gravity Falls fandom,
Do you really think the scientist who spent years building an interdimentional portal in his basement while also researching tons of anomalies, would wear a TRENCH COAT?? Well, here's my autistic ass's "Errmm, acshoeally, he wears a duster, not a trench coat.". Makes a lot more sense, right? RIGHT???
Sincerely,
A very autistic person who would totally pull a 'Grammar, Stanley' on their sibling lmao
Reblogging this just to see what happens lol
@sillygooberatlas That's worrisome tbh.
Wait, are you Ford or Bill in this scenario? (Or Stan or the kids, I suppose)
I think the Billford ship makes Bill's perspective in Gravity falls really funny. Your boyfriend banishes you, you come back twenty years later to some weird little boy immediately demanding you go after Standford Pines aka your ex but it's not him it's his loser brother and then you get your ass beat by his loser great-niece and nephew and then it happens again and then your ex finally comes back and you finally achieve godhood and you and him can finally have psychosexual mindgames together, and you finally get the ultimate privilage of being able to enter his mind again so you can become omnipotent and then it's his fucking loser brother again and then he fucking kills you.
After the war, I want the kids to rot.
I want them to fail living up to their purpose. I want elven society to look upon them with awe and disappointment.
I want them to feel the weight of heroism and ignore it. They may never recover their childhood but, maybe, they can enjoy the beginning of adulthood.
It would start with Sophie. She saved them, saved the entire elven society. So, they’ll ask er to join the council. The question will tear her apart until her family and friends convince her to say no.
She won’t know what to do with herself, how to be something other than the Moonlark. She can wonder her house, helping with the animals and finding who she is without her life in danger. Maybe she’ll pick up a book, find something interesting to research. Eventually she may rejoin the world of politics, with her own policies. She’ll find ways to incorporate even species, even humans.
Dex will go back to Slurps and Burps. Giggle with his dad as they make new medicines and watch his siblings become adults. He can make little technologies that improve their business. Eventually he’ll have an invention that is used in every household.
Biana will design the latest fashion. She never wanted to fight, this has been her dream her entire life.
Keefe will heal. Actually spend time to understand his abilities and utilize them in a way that does not destroy his soul. Maybe he’ll share his way with the younger generation, be the teacher children look up to. (Maybe become principle of Foxfire).
Tam and Linh will look upon their childhood experiences in sorrow. As adults they will learn forgiveness but will never forget what they have gone through. Tam will make sure no child grows up in a household like his own. He’ll teach them how to handle their emotions, work on finding safe homes for everyone. Linh will teach at Exillium. She’ll make it an education to be proud of.
They will all change the world in their own ways. It’s quieter, compared to what was expected, but full of honor. They will not be puppets to the council but learn how to separate from the past and become themselves.
(On a side note, I cannot picture Fitz being anything other than a councilor. I don’t know if he can move on from being the golden boy. But he will be so proud of what his friends and family have become. And he will be a councilor for the people, refusing to continue any ignorant ways)
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Hello! Nice seeing you here!
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