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@evilpixiea
No, no, no! Don’t stop now! This was going so well! See, I completely see the “relationship” the same way as you do. I ship the mental assault, the sexually one-sided relationship. The way, yes, the culmination of Joker’s erotic obsession would definitely be to be killed by Batman. And while Batman wouldn’t have a sexual drive toward Joker, yes I believe the equivalent of it is how Joker gets under his skin in a way no other villain does. And so it creates a sort of unhealthy relationship.
And in shipping them, I like seeing how deep and dangerous that relationship (because it’s more than simple interactions) can go.
So my ask was really: in a world where maybe the Joker, just like in maybe Snyder’s Death of the Family, takes things dangerously far, and Batman is dangerously strained by it yet will let himself be affected by the dynamics, how would Superman react, in a world where there is a Superbat relationship. How would he react seeing how consumed Batman is by the very destructive dynamics, yet does not pull himself away from it.
I may be rambling and incoherently incapable of putting coherent words to my thoughts, I admit...
(Side note, I’m actually a fan of Troy Baker’s Joker in Origins.. I thought he did a perfect rendition of a younger Joker. Perfectly in tune with Mark’s)
(Can I also add how much I dig Supes’ face when he’s under the Joker’s toxin’s effect in Endgame??)
I don’t think I’ve ever seen much of BatJokes in your work, but I’m going to bring this up.. hope it’s alright.. I consider the relationship between The Joker and The Batman to be heavily sexually charged. There may not be anything physical, but there is sexual tension that creeps on the “mentally sexually charged”... If this would be the case in your worlds, what would Superman’s reaction, and to it via-a-vis Bruce? Extra points for angst..?
Personally, the BatJokes ship has never been one that gels very well with me. That’s not because I don’t think there is sexual energy between them (I very much do) but because I think that energy is very one sided. From my readings of the comics and other media Joker has for a long time has had a very explicit and obvious sexual interest in Batman. Not Bruce. Batman. However, instead of trying to have sex with him he tries to hurt him. For the Joker, intimacy is achieved when he successfully gets under Batman’s skin or (better yet) makes him lose control.
A part of the Joker wants Batman to kill him. That I think would be the climax of his erotic obsession with Batman. He wants to be that person that breaks Batman and unleashes the beast.
Bruce, for his part, I think really truly does hate the Joker. There is no softness, no caveats, or round edges in that feeling. He hates him as much as a person can hate another.
He wishes Joker was dead… which is what makes the dynamic interesting from a hero/villain point of view. Bruce, to uphold his code, needs to not kill. Joker wants Batman to kill him and will continue trying to hurt him until he does.
That is the dramatic tension. That is the push pull. That is what makes the pair so interesting.
However, personally, that also means I don’t really enjoy shipping them. I can’t see Joker ever giving a shit about the parts of Bruce which aren’t Batman and I can’t see Bruce ever not hating Joker with every single fibre of his being.
However, as anyone who has spoken to me on this subject knows, I am fine with people interpreting and building on canon however they see fit. This is what fandom is all about and fandom is a beautiful thing. So, if people see their relationship differently than I do and like to imagine them together or, at the very least, a two way erotic energy, then that’s cool. I am fine with people shipping whatever they want. That’s what makes fandom interesting.
And even if I don’t ship them I still think they have a really interesting hero/villain relationship. One of the best in comics, if not the best.
Some of my favourite Batman vs Joker moments which really (I think) highlight Joker’s fetishisation of the Batman persona and Bruce’s utter hatred mixed with his constant near loss of control are…
The Joker’s POV scenes in Arkham Origins. God, if only they had Mark Hammil it would have been perfect.
The Joker in Scot Snyder’s Death Of The Family.
The Joker in The Dark Knight Returns.
Side note. It’s really interesting that the queer coding of Joker hasn’t gone away yet, don’t you think? Traditionally comic book villains (like Disney villains) were given gender non conformist traits to emphasis how evil and different they were… we’re a little more enlightened in regard to queer folk now and tend not to do that with our villains anymore. Joker’s the exception. He is still very queer in his coding. Everything from the way he moves, the way he puts on his makeup, the way he often wears women’s clothing like high heels, and the language he uses.
I think Joker gets a pass on the whole ‘evil character being queer coded’ because DC has decided to play into the idea of Joker’s fetishisation of Batman. It’s interesting, no?
Anyway, I’m rambling. Sorry. I’ll back out of this post now.
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Anyone has that clip where Charles is actually filmed doing this?
Charles really loves a Carlos close up
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F1 Testing In Abu Dhabi - Day One (2014)
operation i forgot that i had FLAMMABLE paint right before i had to go through security for a flight home
i had 1 hour to use as much as i could and these photos are some of the results
i was devastated thinking i had to use everything quickly and then throw out the originals (takes around 2+ hours to dry and 10 for it to be truly dry) but a security guard liked them so much he decided he wanted to keep them
i still had paint left so i very quickly taught him how to use it so he could take the remaining paint home for his son to try
so i guess this story ends well after all
here’s some of the other (old) paint pours peppered between illustrations: https://www.instagram.com/dora.wednesday
have a nice day xoxox
Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice RPF Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Ben Affleck/Henry Cavill Characters: Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill Additional Tags: Not Beta Read, Beta Wanted Summary:
Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck have been playing a certain dance for weeks. Perhaps it's time to have a go.
I can’t believe I saw this on @c2-eh’s blog. I was sure this was @lovelynikol7 XD
Tagging both of you… but also is this a max thighs worshipping covenant?
I can be trusted to behave around max verstappen's thighs I promise
What Zack Snyder did for the character of Superman is equivocal to the evolution his character went through in the 1980s. Superman had become far too powerful to be of any interest as a character. Through a series of deaths, resurrections, soft reboots, and revitalizations of the character, Superman became weaker and more vulnerable. This forced his characterization to change slightly, as he became more relatable and interesting.
What Zack Snyder did with Man of Steel and Batman vs Superman was add a new layer to this character that contained all of the weight and expectation placed upon Superman, as a character that had to be handled carefully and perfectly, and placed it upon the man. You can hear this very burden in the criticisms of Snyder’s characterization with lines like, “Superman is supposed to smile,” or “ Superman is supposed to be a ‘boy scout’ not gloomy.” The anxiety and introverted personality Snyder gave to the character almost serves as a counter to this. He made Superman carry these expectations and even face them head on in Batman vs Superman.
One the author and creator of One Punch Man did something similar with his protagonists by realizing that in order to make an all powerful character interesting you have to give them weaknesses that we can relate too, and he does this by making them bad at communication or giving them feelings of loneliness and isolation, as no one is able to be their equal or understand their pain. This leads his characters to often push others away or accept a burden they do not want in pursuit of doing what is right even if they know no one will ever understand or know what they did, but it also allows his character to act unheroic and selfish as they struggle to feel normal.
If future creators were to embrace what Snyder has given to the character of Superman, we might gain a character that can not only be what we all strive to be but also give us a way of delving into the complex nature and burden of expectation and power. Their is a reason “human nature” is always a reference to how we see or interact with the world rather than our physical strength. What makes a character human is their feelings, desires, and relationships, and superhero stories are the perfect chance to delve into these concepts in a significant and interesting way.
For these amazing movies and a hopeful future for the character, Zack, we thank you.
This is the last batch of the 100 fan questions Yoneda-sensei answered in the fanbook. Sorry, it took so long. This year has been crazy busy so far.
You can find the other parts here, in case you missed them:
Part 1 (About Sensei’s works in general / Doushitemo furetakunai / NightS )
Part 2 (About Soredemo / Saezuru)
Part 3 (About Yoneda-sensei herself)
Additional questions she answered on Twitter
And now on to the final questions. They’re also about Sensei.
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