It Doesn’t Have To Be Good It Just Has To Be Done

this miguel concept art is my roman empire btw (by cteec on ig)

"Neytiri can be understood: she hit the Spider because her daughter was in danger, her firstborn was dead, and Neytiri was furious."

Yes, it can be understood, but not justified. No matter how crazy she is, it doesn't mean that she can harm children. That doesn't mean she shouldn't have talked to Spider after the incident on the ship. This does not mean that this situation should be hushed up, as if she had accidentally pushed him instead of putting a knife to his chest.

Why, if Neytiri can be understood, then the Spider cannot be understood-"He betrayed Sally: he saved Quaritch, taught them the Na'vi language." True, but it's not a betrayal. The spider was in CAPTIVITY and was used as a tool to achieve goals (not only by the deja blu team, Neytiri did it too). He saved Quaritch because he was the only adult who really cared about him. Not because circumstances forced him to do it, but because he wanted to do it himself.

In the months Quaritch has spent with his son, he has achieved more than anyone from Hellgate or the clan. Quaritch saved the Spider from torture!

In just one film, it was possible to understand that the Spider is a merciful, kind and not at all cruel hero, despite the fact that not everyone likes him, he does not treat them with hostility. His own homeland is not suitable for him to live in, but no matter what, he would not trade it for any other place, even if it were 1000 times better.

And the Spider should have had real parents, not employees who were supposed to take care of it. None of the people thought about accepting it. Even Norm, who was ready for children (he literally adopted Omatikai's orphans), did not accept him. No one thought about him.

Spider lost almost everything he had or should have had.

Even his father has a lot of fans, despite the fact that he was clearly not a super hero.

It upsets me that people desperately don't want to analyze the movie (or analyze everything related to the Spider), they only have two arguments: "The Spider betrayed Sally" and "Quaritch said he didn't care about the Spider"

And obviously, it doesn't matter to them that Quaritch calls the boy his son in the rescue scene, and it doesn't matter that Quaritch was deceiving himself in the beginning. It was safer for Quaritch to show that he didn't care about the Spider, because otherwise the Spider would once again become the protagonist of a bad story, but this time related only to his father. As it already happened in the scene on the ship!

Even Neytiri understands that the Spider is important to Quaritch!

Oh, I didn't forget to mention that two adults abandoned a child in the company of deadly guys, didn't I? And no, arguments in the style of "they saved their children" are not accepted.

I apologize if something was unclear, English is not my native language.

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Norm family lore drop!!

so for Avatar fans who don't already know, Kelutral's "Omaticon" online convention (streamed on their Twitch channel) is going on this weekend, and the kickoff panel earlier this evening featured franchise loremaster Josh Izzo.

Some may remember this little panel in the High Ground, featuring Norm with a Na'vi child addressing him as "Daddy":

In the Visual Dictionary, there's also a very brief mention that Tuk has a best friend named Popiti.

...so here's the fun bit:

Izzo confirmed that this "Popiti" is in fact Norm's kid!!

Apparently Popiti also has a sibling, and her mother/Norm's mate is from the Olangi clan (which makes sense given that the Visual Dictionary mentions Norm having a bunch of Olangi trinkets).

ngl I love this lore drop but now I have so many more questions also!! How old is Popiti (I assume close to Tuk's age since they're best friends but there's still some wiggle room there so)? Is her sibling older or younger and what's his/her name? If they're Norm's biological kids, do either of them have avatar features like Kiri and Lo'ak? What's Norm's wife's name, what's their story? Norm didn't get his consciousness permanently transferred like Jake did, so how does him switching between two bodies affect things? PLZ I NEED TO KNOW

@theoptimistictabby thought you'd be interested in this one ;)

btw let it be known that I speculated all these things like two years ago, my mind is still reeling that what I thought was merely wild wishful-thinking speculation at the time turned out to be CANON lol

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things that are meant to be will fall into place 💫

I had this idea of Tonowari and Ronal keeping Spider as a "ward" to keep a close eye on him, only to realize that something inside him has shattered.

Tonowari and Ronal make the deliberate decision to take Spider in as a sort of ward, not out of kindness, but to keep a close eye on the human and ensure he doesn’t burn down their village or is left to his own devices to cause trouble. Jake practically falls over himself agreeing to the arrangement, which leaves Tonowari somewhat baffled by how quickly he relinquishes the boy into their care.

But the real shock comes once Spider is living in their home, constantly under their watch. With the boy in such close proximity, day and night, Tonowari and his family see firsthand how traumatized he is. There are dark circles under his eyes, his skin is a sickly shade of pale, he flinches at the slightest raised hand, barely speaks, often stares into nothing, and eats next to nothing.

Tonowari has Spider shadow either himself or Ronal to keep him close and occupied, but the boy moves like a wraith, so quiet that they often have to glance over their shoulders just to confirm he’s still there. It’s… concerning. Human or not, aren’t children supposed to be loud, energetic, and full of life? From what Jake told them, Spider was always underfoot and excitable, eager to prove himself. What happened to this child to make him a shadow of his former self?

Against Tonowari’s better judgment, his heart fills with pain for the child. He was not the boy’s father, and the boy was not even of his people. But Tonowari had seen enough in this world to know a broken spirit. This was not a child who needed discipline or containment or judgment. This was a child who needed healing.

That night, Tonowari spoke to Ronal outside, his voice low but firm. “He does not need to be watched. He needs to be cared for. He needs to be taught to live again.” Ronal was quiet for a long time before she gave a small hum of affirmation. “Then we begin tomorrow.”

Basically, it's Tonowari and his family finding out about Souder's time with the RDA and being so disgusted and horrified that Spider goes from being a "ward" to a possible future adopted son. Maybe? Spider doesn't quite trust authority or paternal figures and is so used to taking care of himself that he's suspicious of Tonowari and Ronal's sudden change of heart towards him. Even worse, he's bottling up his grief over losing Neteyam because he feels that the cursed son of Quaritch doesn't deserve to mourn.

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