Regret

Im so happy that everyone here is so fucking based and real. Fuck that blue eyed freaky twink

The Wrong Turn

Guess who's back here? I had a bumpy ride but I made it eventually.

True

big dangerous bearish Björn in a rut completely taken apart and compliant like a dog on a leash when an older but more domineering Askeladd gives orders is so

Proship vs. Antiship

This is the most polarizing discourse I'm aware of in every fandom, in that both sides generally believe the other side is morally atrocious and might cut ties with someone due to their stance on the issue.

Proship (short for pro-shipping) is the stance that people should be able to ship whatever they want, including ships that in real life would be harmful, or morally taboo at the least, such as teacher/student or incestuous relationships. The general philosophy of proshippers, from what I've seen, is "Ship and let ship." Proshippers believe that depicting harmful things in fiction is not necessarily harmful, at least in the context of fanfiction. They are usually very anti-censorship and believe in absolute freedom of artistic expression.

Antiship (short for anti-shipping) is most generally defined as the opposition to proship. I've never seen anyone self-identify as an antishipper, rather, the label is applied to them by proshippers. Though, people will express their opposition to proship openly, such as putting "proshippers DNI" in their bios. Antis generally believe that romanticizing harmful relationships in fiction, including fanfiction, is harmful in real life, due to normalizing abusive or unhealthy dynamics.

When I say this discourse is polarizing, I really mean it. The shipping war as characterized by antishippers (often referred to as "antis") is pedophiles vs. normal people who care about morality. According to proshippers, the war is anti-censorship believers vs moral puritans who will bully you off the internet for liking problematic content. To be clear, there is a real problem of antis bullying and harassing people they deem problematic, but this is not the behavior of the average antishipper. The shipping discourse is very Western and associated with English speakers, and has only recently (2015–present) started to spread to other cultures.

My view is that the popular discourse, the arguments that get 100k likes on Twitter and dominate the conversation, reflect a black-and-white, unnuanced, incorrect understanding of abuse and depictions of abuse in art. Black-and-white views of complex issues are always wrong, and that includes issues of morality. To keep this short, I believe that the responsibilities of artists depend on what their art is for and who will see it. An artist making art for children has more responsibility not to harmfully influence the audience than an artist making content for adults. Artists writing for a niche audience do not have the same responsibilities as artists writing for a general audience. Writers on AO3 have different responsibilities than writers who seek to publish their work and potentially have their book on shelves in libraries and bookstores.

Due to the niche and insular nature of AO3, as well as the tagging system, and the lack of profit incentive, I believe writers on AO3 have relatively few responsibilities towards their audiences. The one important responsibility AO3 authors have is to tag their works appropriately so that those who want to read the content can find it and those who wish to avoid the content can avoid it. I also have the hard-to-prove feeling that there should be some places like AO3 where people can write problematic and even horribly disturbing content, so long as it is a non-profit platform with a tagging system that limits the likelihood of people reading anything with content they don't want to read. Due to this, I fit in best with the proshipping crowd and would call myself proship if asked, despite thinking the entire discourse is wild.

I wrote this to put my views on shipping discourse so everyone knows where I stand and I can link to this if anyone asks me haha

CUUUUUUUTE AAAAAAHHHHHH

🌻🍂 Askeladd & Thorfinn 🍂🌻

Why Vinland Saga is so Impactful to Me

I know that the thing that makes me feel so connected to Vinland Saga is Askeladd and Thorfinn's relationship. Something about it is one of the most impactful things to me, but Ive been trying to think of what it is so I can capture it again in new art.

I think what it might be is something about hating someone you love/loving someone you hate. Something about how we don't get to choose who we hate or who we love and the great unfairness of it all

Like if I hate my father, I hate someone I love. I don't get a choice of just hating him. No matter what I want, he will be a deeply important part of my life, even if he died and disappeared forever (I don't hate my dad, it's more complicated than that. I love him but feel hurt by him. This is just for example purposes).

Like Thorfinn does not get a choice; the man he hates and wanted to kill is forever a very important part of his life. Because Askeladd raised him, Askeladd is permanently important. There is nothing that lets us move on 100% from these permanently important people. No matter what we want, they will keep affecting us. There's something hard-hitting about this unfairness.

I think Askeladd and Thorfinn's relationship impacts me the most because it's one of the purest examples of getting no choice in how we feel about someone: An enemy who has done horrible things to you becoming like a father to you. It also captures the extreme unfairness of this situation by having Askeladd be taken away from Thorfinn in a way that was completely out of his control. He didn't even get to end Askeladd on his own terms. Someone else took away his reason for living, the person who he defined his life by, even though he hated this person.

It's just very oof to love someone you hate.

Hello

Hello lol

im getting a lot of nearly identical messages from different accounts pretending to be Palestinians who desperately need money for their families.

That's a particularly foul tactic for scamming 😬

"You have no enemies."

Got really into Vinland Saga recently. A truly special manga/anime.